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Time for a national discussion on immigration


Thursday, July 17th, 2014
Issue 29, Volume 18.
Assemblymember Marie Waldron (R) AD-75


The debate over the nation’s border policies continues. In this region, the debate is fueled by the regular arrival of planeloads of illegal immigrants from Texas for processing at facilities in San Diego and Riverside counties.

A facility to house these immigrants was recently rejected by Escondido authorities over land-use concerns. In addition, citizens of Murrieta have prevented busloads of newly-arrived illegal immigrants from being unloaded at the Murrieta Border Patrol facility.

For decades, the federal government has been largely ignoring the issue of illegal immigration. Through multiple administrations, our borders have not been secured. Now that the issue has reached a crisis stage, the federal government’s only solution appears to be to transport the incoming illegal immigrants to places like Escondido or Murrieta Advertisement
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for rapid release, presumably to other family members.

This grotesque dereliction of duty, which diverts Border Patrol agents from essential duties like drug interdiction, is being orchestrated at the highest levels of the federal government.

Whatever the reasons for federal inaction may be: indifference, incompetence, political expediency or ideology, the result is the same. The nation’s leaders are derelict in their sworn constitutional duty to protect our citizens, our borders, our national sovereignty.

The underlying humanitarian concerns do not outweigh the negative national consequences resulting from open borders. Failure to secure the border will lead to disaster; just ask the citizens of Iraq or Ukraine about that.

I call upon responsible federal authorities to honor their oaths to the Constitution by securing the nation’s borders now.


 

19 comments

Comment Profile ImageJon Monday
Comment #1 | Friday, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:45 am
I can’t help but think of the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were denied visas or turned away from America’s shores prior to WWII.

There was a movement to let the Jews in, but anti-Semitism and fear blocked their escape from the Nazis.

Now we have families, mostly children, who are fleeing for their lives from corrupt governments, drug cartels, and death squads. These good people come to American to seek safety and are turned away by hate and fear. America is responsible for a lot of the problems in Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador that has resulted in dysfunctional governments and swarms of armed criminals.

If a Cuban reaches our shores, they are embraced. Why not these Advertisement
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[ Christ the King Lutheran Church ] people, who only ask for protection and an opportunity to prove they want a better life? Except for Native Americans, this is how our ancestors came here – in between waves of open and closed immigration policies. This is not political – it’s only about our humanity. A "What Would Jesus Do?" kind of issue, which our nation of immigrants must face.

Addressing the Reichstag in 1939 Hitler mocked the US attitude towards taking in the Jews when he said, "It is a shameful example to observe today how the entire democratic world dissolves into tears of pity but then, in spite of its obvious duty to help, closes its heart to the poor, tortured people."
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #2 | Friday, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm
Big difference between Jews and the current group. Jews, as a race, were being exterminated. They fled, or tried to to not for a better life, but life itself. The Jews that came here WANTED to assimalte; they did not not want to bring Germany with them; The Jews that came here, for the most part, ADDED to America, they brought skills and knowledge - again becuase they chosen for who they were. RIght now, we are not getting the middle or upper class from Central America- those that come are hoping for amansty, hoping for Government aid. The situatuon in Central America has been ongoing for decades, we can not save every poor or unhappy person in the world. The Marcel boat lift was also a mistake, Castro dumped his crimanal element, those that he did not want on us. It is 100% political, (the current immigration problem). Look around at the changes taking place - in California AMERICAN school students were told not to display the AMERICAN flag on Cinco de Mayo as it would upset the Mexican students. I was nto around then, but I would belive that the Jews that escaped Hilter proudly waved the AMERICAN flag.
Comment Profile ImageBert
Comment #3 | Saturday, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:12 am
I guess Grunt's point is that acceptance should be selective. That is logical. However, stereotyping and scapegoating are an intellectually lazy and invalid way of being selective. The relevance of the Ship of the darned story is that several nations excluded people in desperate need based on such "selectivity". Waldron waves the flag of xenophobia by her absurd characterization of the temporary sheltering of refugee children as an invasion comparable to the events in Ukraine. As far as Iraq goes, I have to admit I can't even tell what she means. The main country that invaded Iraq in recent history was...
Comment Profile ImageMike W
Comment #4 | Sunday, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:31 am
Waldron is just a tea party politician, so we don't expect her to make sense as she tries to associate these kids with Ukraine and Iraq ? Yikes !!
Actually that is a good idea, asking the people of Ukraine and Iraq about how well the regime changes we orchestrated in their countries is working for them, as anyone can see, not very well at all.

Hats off to the Prez and all the immigration folks trying to do the right thing and help these kids find their families. That's what my America is all about. "In Giving you get"
Comment Profile ImageJoemamma
Comment #5 | Monday, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:11 pm
From what I understand these kids ARE running for their lives. As Americans we need to take SOME responsibility here. We allow our big AG and energy companies (Monsanto Exxon/Mobil) to go down there and rape the land in the name of profits, steal peoples farms and cut down their forests yet we get mad when they come north looking for work? And don't even get me started on the failed drug war funding the violent cartels.
Comment Profile ImageReally?
Comment #6 | Wednesday, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:11 pm
Have immigration-reform cheerleaders such as Jon Monday or Mike W offered some of the rooms in their home as a temporary shelter for needy Central American immigrants? Or put some cash up for rent on a homeless shelter? Couldn't Mikey welcome some homeless immigrants unto his farm? Wonder if you would change your hypocritical mind if 200 or 300 or 400 border crisis kids were to move into your neighborhood. As long as the rest of us have to bear the burden of this border crisis, it is fine with you. You step up to the plate, Mondays, and do your fair share. Come on now, Mikey!

Get you "morally right thinking" rears down to Central America and make it a better place for its citizens to stay. Until then, more of the same hyporcritical liberals spouting straw man arguments.
Comment Profile ImageMike W
Comment #7 | Wednesday, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:59 pm
What burden are you talking about Really? Why is it you (people) feel so burdened, I can not honestly see where they have changed anything in my life by being here, I feel no added financial stress and neither do you so why should you allow yourself to get so bent out of shape about something that does not noticeably have any effect you at all. Oh but the Idea of it is unbearable to you, I would gladly have as many here as would fit, if this red neck town would let me.
Although I see a lot of pain in your writings, I believe you are a good man so take off the boxing gloves, sit back and take the following information in and let it roll around in your head a while.

If you make $50,000 per year, you pay:
* $247.75 a year for defense (interest payment to the Fed)
* $3.98 a year for natural disaster relief (FEMA)
* $22.88 a year for unemployment insurance
* $36.82 a year for SNAP (food stamps)
* $6.92 a year for welfare
* $43.78 a year for retirement and disability to government workers (civilian and military)
* $235.81 a year for Medicare
* $4,000 a year in corporate subsidies

The richer we have become materially, the poorer we've become morally and spiritually, We have learned to fly the air like birds and swim the sea like fish, but we have not learned the art of living together like brothers ~ Martin Luther King Jr.
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Comment Profile ImageMike W
Comment #8 | Wednesday, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm
PS this should clear some things up for people who are willing to take a broader view ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAqG51uwzMI&list=PLCFC50000766B264E
Comment Profile ImageHc
Comment #9 | Thursday, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:27 am
we can not even help our own. Veterans are suffering yet we are willing to help illegals? There is a process to go through to get in America LEGALLY, my grandparents did it, my parents did it, why shouldn't they have to do it? This isn't temporary either, there court dates are a year away, and if you actually cared so much about them feel free to foster one of these "children." These "children" are 12-30's atleast. Some are ms13 members running from rival gangs .... la raza HATES Americans, they believe in only "one race" the "hispanic race," once again, we need to help our own, before we help others, a way to fix this is to HELP THEIR COUNTRY, NOT INVADE OURS. When you OR A FAMILY MEMBER get some rare disease that is now floating in MANY states caused my this invasion, then I PROMISE your mindset will not be lets help them and BYPASS our immigration laws. They are there FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COUNTRY, NOT TO PREVENT RACE, so drop the race card, drop the "for the children", do it THE RIGHT WAY!
Comment Profile ImageReally?
Comment #10 | Thursday, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:41 am
Pain in my writing? One wonders where you get your meandering fantasies. No Sir, I garner nothing but pleasure in pointing out the hypocricy of people trying to save the planet, rescue the exploited, create “social justice” and otherwise, at the expense of their fellow citizens. These constant demands and in-your-face attitude of you 'progressive' activists is wearing very thin.

As I stated earlier I'm not hearing from you or Monday volunteering to "sponsor" these people in your homes. And if you ever do decide to put your money where your mouth is and house, clothe and feed some of these folks, without making them pick your fruit, I will insist on selecting them for you.

And I'll be picking the tattooed ones first for you left-wingers.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #11 | Friday, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Please don't respond to this Really because I'm only JV and therefore unqualified to converse with you, a full fledged varsity member.

But I can't resist noting the rich irony in Really's? (And I can tell this is the real really) post calling anyone an in-your-face anything. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. If I had the interest I'd go back and select a few of his many in-your-face comments and repost them here. Pretty darn amusing.
Comment Profile ImageReally?
Comment #12 | Monday, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:20 am
Awww...Redneck, You funny guy.

In other words, you just have another uninformed opinion? Is that what you're saying?

Sometimes it's just sad about how uncool you’ve become.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #13 | Monday, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:43 am
I see the Homer Simpson reverse psychology worked with you. I'm a bit surprised, given your depth of understanding of the discipline. Perhaps you aren't correct 100 percent of the time?

Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'll go haze myself right now for thinking such nonsense. Your opinion, Oh Great One, is the only informed opinion, and therefore the only one of any importance.

At least you're a kind person, what with you being the cool Varsity guy and all, showing a willingness to converse with uncool me. Gosh, I'm just so beside myself.

I'm going to be busy for a few days really, so if I don't chase the ball it's not because I don't appreciate you throwing it, and it's not because my other stuff is more important, it's just my poor time management skills might prevent it.
Comment Profile ImageOn Waldon's Pondering
Comment #14 | Tuesday, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:25 am
Waldon should ponder the immigration issue a bit more like, you know, with facts... (really, what is it with so many politicians -- is there some kind of low hanging fruit test they have to pass first?)

So let's talk about IRAQ... and every single war throughout US history.

"On Dec. 18, 2011, the United States pulled its troops out of Iraq, ending an eight-year war in which immigrant soldiers made remarkable contributions to the American cause.

During the peak of the war, more than 30,000 non-citizens were serving in the U.S. military, accounting for close to 2% of the total 1.4 million active duty service members.

By the end of the Iraq war, the government had given more than 120 immigrant military members posthumous citizenship after they lost their lives during combat in Afghanistan and Iraq.

After 9/11, President George W. Bush signed an executive order that allowed for expedited citizenship for non-citizen, legal U.S. residents who enlisted in the military. Section 329 of the Immigration & Nationality Act gives the president the authority to allow non-citizen service members a fast track to citizenship during periods when the nation is engaged in armed conflict.

The change brought tens of thousands of so-called “green-card soldiers” into the U.S. armed forces.

Many of them took advantage of the opportunity to become American citizens. From 9/11 until the end of the Iraq war, about 75,000 foreigners in the military became U.S. citizens.

Most of them served in Iraq and took their citizenship oaths in the United States. About 3,500 were naturalized while serving in Iraq and another 1,000 in Afghanistan, according to United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.

At the height of the war, the U.S. military had about 115,000 foreign-born service members, or about 7.9% of the total military. About 80% of them were naturalized citizens.

Foreigners have served in the U.S. military since the Revolutionary War, distinguishing themselves on battlefields from Gettysburg, to Normandy, to Vietnam, to Baghdad. Roughly a third of the non-citizens in the armed forces today are from Latin America and the Caribbean. Many others are from Canada, China, Vietnam, India, Nigeria, Turkey and Korea."

http://immigration.about.com/od/usimmigrationhistory/a/Immigrant-Soldiers-Gave-Much-To-U-S-In-Iraq.htm

The teabaggers and conservative wingnuts can now look at their xenophobia (aka: immigration) this way: more cannon fodder for your war fetishes. For it is children such as these who come to America and seek asylum who will grow up to join the US military and risk their lives so the ignorant Waldon's and other assorted wingnuttery can continue to freely espouse their boneheaded babble.

The rest of us will say to these patriotic immigrants (and all other military personnel) who have served our nation, thank you for your service.
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #15 | Tuesday, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:36 am
Regardless of you stance on immigration, any Nation that does not enforce its National Laws will eventually fail and every country that the illegals come from understand that better than we do.
Comment Profile ImageMike W
Comment #16 | Tuesday, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm
I'm all for keeping the children and deporting the bigots ... That would do our country a lot of good.
Comment #15 .. Don't you think the US would be a great example of what you are trying to say? After all we've had so called illegals coming into this country since the beginning of time when we were the illegals. This country is going down the tubes but it has nothing to do with your Illegals and everything to do with so called "legal" foreigners running our money supply (Fed) and having way too much power within our government like (AIPAC) You know, that place where all aspiring politicians must go, genuflect and promise unwavering love and support for a foreign country, Israel. A country busying itself occupying land that doesn't belong to them while wiping their neighbors off the face of the map, destroying yet more ancient groves, orchards waterways and homes and all evidence that Palestine ever existed. Today we see politicians like Harry Reid and others falling all over themselves to put together another aid package full of cash to help their ethnic cleansing project.
I'm all for deporting all the Zionists infiltrating the white house and all important government positions starting with Wolfowitz, Perle, Fife and all the other neoconservatives and self proclaimed Zionist like our VP, "I'm a Zionist, you know you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist." Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. What a tool he is.

There is sanity in the world, it was heartwarming to see over 10,000 Jews and Rabbi's filling the streets in New York City in support of the Palestinians and condemning Israel's latest bombing of hospitals and apartments, killing record numbers of children, and using white phosophorus just "for fun"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151611.stm

Jews Say No! activist Dorothy Zellner lamented that outsiders assume the Jewish community uniformly supports Israel. “This is heartbreaking. Everyone thinks Israel represents us and speaks for us,” she said.
“I think there’s a myth that the Jewish community supports the Israeli attack on Gaza,” she added, and asserted that there are “hundreds of thousands” of Jews in the U.S. that oppose the Israeli occupation.
Most of the Jewish protesters interviewed opposed Israeli policies long before the current campaign. But they view the current hostilities as deplorable, or even criminal.
“It’s with our weapons, and our funding, and we’re complicit in war crimes,” said Jenny Heinz, a Jewish senior citizen wearing a keffiyah. “My parents escaped from [Nazi] Germany. ‘Never again’ was always understood by me to mean never again for anyone.”

http://forward.com/articles/202796/jews-march-in-new-york-rally-against-israel-war-in/
Comment Profile ImageTerry Leather
Comment #17 | Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:47 am
#14 is Sooooo Right, just saw this on the AP today!!!!

Veterans Posing As Illegal Immigrants To Get Help

EL PASO, Texas (WNB) - An increasing number of American war veterans are turning up among immigrant "dreamers" illegally entering the U.S. in an attempt to obtain assistance and needed medical treatment.

"It's pretty obvious - a 67-year-old guy dressed as a Mexican child is hard to miss," said one HHS aid worker. "We've been told to care for everyone coming across the border, so we do."

"I didn't really have a choice," said one Vietnam veteran who calls himself 'Little Lupe.' "While I was sick and starving, Obama's importing thousands of illegal aliens and giving them everything. I've been here two days and have already received great food, medical care, sexual identity orientation, new clothes, and some great toys."

The Obama administration admits "some" veterans are masquerading as "dreamers," but refuse to divulge how many, but sources say the number is in the hundreds and increasing every day.
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #18 | Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm
Mike: I'm not certain how the situation in the Middle East ended up in a conversation about immigration, but since you bring it up, I have a question for you. Have you ever heard of Hamas? Israel is under attack everyday from rocket fire initiated by this terrorist group. Hamas has absolutely NO regard for the fact that they are putting innocent civilians in harms way, in fact they rejoice in it, using women and children as human shields!! I deplore the violence and loss of life along the Gaza Strip as much as you do, but Israel is merely defending itself. Hamas has rejected all talks of peace, and even when there is a truce, they continue to lob mortars at the Israelies. They also murdered 3 innocent Israelie teenagers. These are not nice people, they are zealots with no concern at all for human rights or human life! How can you condemn Israel and not condemn Hamas?
Comment Profile ImageMike W
Comment #19 | 9 hours ago
Sorry for getting sidetracked but mass Immigration is a symptom of a world in turmoil, not the cause, the cause is much closer to home.
You couldn't be more wrong about the Middle East Pink, but one can't blame you, what with the lack of viable news and factual information available to us here in the USofA, and what information we do get is usually one sided. Don't get me wrong, the information is out there but you have to work a great deal to get it and most working folks just don't have the time. The idea that the Jews came to a wasteland and turned into a garden in spite of a bunch of lazy warring Arabs is just not true, there are plenty of photos and old newsreels out there that show a beautiful and prosperous Palestine with waterways, many orchards and plantations a majority of Arabs and minority of Jews worked in harmony, side by side, and were the first to supply the world with their famous Jaffa Oranges .. This following documentary, "Jaffa - The Orange’s Clockwork" narrates the visual history of the famous citrus fruit originated from Palestine and known worldwide for centuries as "Jaffa oranges". The history of the orange is the history of this land. Through photography and cinema, poetry, paintings, workers of the citruses’ industry and historians, memory and present mythologies, Palestinians and Israelis cross and combine. The close reading of the Jaffa brand's visual representation is a reflection on western orientalist phantasms surrounding the ‘holy land’ and the ‘State of Israel’ and a tool to reveal the untold story of what was once a commune industry and symbol to Arabs and Jews in Palestine.

Please watch ~ http://www.linktv.org/programs/jaffa-the-oranges-clockwork

The next is some factual history from an Israeli man who served in the military where his father was a general, they fought in the wars but eventually both changed their views and now give testimony everything about how the original “deal” was in reality a slap in the face to the Arabs because it gave the greater portion of land to the Jews.

Don’t think you know anything about Israel until you see this ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMIknfMUV4

A former leader of American Jewish Congress has strongly condemned Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip, saying “the Zionist dream is based on slaughter of innocents.”
Henry Siegman, who is also a former Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and president of the US/Middle East Project, and refers to Israel as a "de-facto apartheid" regime and says that the "two-state solution is dead." He has also denounced the so-called peace process in the occupied Palestinian territories as a "scam" because of a "consensus reached long ago by Israel's decision-making elites that Israel will never allow the emergence of a Palestinian state."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/31/373510/us-rabbi-israel-slaughtering-innocents/

Now just one last ditch effort to convince you that many more Europeans and Asians etc often know much more about our foreign policies than we do here in the land of the free but first you must be cautious about letting old ideas get in the way when talking about Russia and Putin since most of us automatically think of our long time enemy, The Soviet Union when anyone mentions either Russia and Putin who are both being demonized in western media in support of our CIA’s overthrow of the government of Ukraine and eventual partnering of NATO, IMF and Ukraine. You did know that the new Ukrainian government up and quit didn't you ? They say i9t's in protest to the deal offered by the IMF and austerity measures.
Never the less, in the first minute of following interview Putin nails our biggest problem within our government as clearly and plainly as anyone can ask for ~
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39284.htm

PS Please don't respond until you have taken the time to watch and listen with an open mind the information offered. It is a stretch at best to believe God gave this or any other land to anyone of designated any people his chosen people over all others, and downright ludicrous to expect anyone with a rational mind to believe such a thing, yet many people do and that is the door to racism, the idea that one race is better or more deserving than another.
From what Jesus said, and my own personal experience, that's just not how God rolls..

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