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Bill Thead, representing the Vessels family (owners of San Luis Rey Downs Enterprises), explains theirposition on the sale of the golf course and its conversion to mitigation land at a public meeting on Feb 24.
Bill Thead, representing the Vessels family (owners of San Luis Rey Downs Enterprises), explains their position on the sale of the golf course and it...
At a public meeting held Feb. 24, Deborah Howard speaks about the potential effect on nearby residents if San Luis Rey Downs golf course in Bonsall is closed and transformed into wetland.
At a public meeting held Feb. 24, Deborah Howard speaks about the potential effect on nearby residents if San Luis Rey Downs golf course in Bonsall is...
Duff McGrath, coach of the Vista High School golf team, describes the effect the proposed sale of the San Luis Rey Downs golf course would have on his team during a public meeting held at the golf course Feb. 24.
Duff McGrath, coach of the Vista High School golf team, describes the effect the proposed sale of the San Luis Rey Downs golf course would have on his...
Kevin Knowles, one of the three owners of Conservation Land Group explains his company’s plans for their planned purchase of the San Luis Rey Downs golf course at a public meeting on Feb 24 in Bonsall.
Kevin Knowles, one of the three owners of Conservation Land Group explains his company’s plans for their planned purchase of the San Luis Rey Downs go...
A standing room-only crowd was present at the San Luis Rey Downs banquet room on Feb. 24 in Bonsall to hear plans going forward to return the golf course to natural habitat through a sale to an environmental mitigation bank sale.
A standing room-only crowd was present at the San Luis Rey Downs banquet room on Feb. 24 in Bonsall to hear plans going forward to return the golf cou...
Bill Thead, representing the Vessels family (owners of San Luis Rey Downs Enterprises), and Geoff Reilly of WRA Environmental Consultants listen to audience questions and statements at a public meeting on Feb. 24 at San Luis Rey Downs golf course.
Bill Thead, representing the Vessels family (owners of San Luis Rey Downs Enterprises), and Geoff Reilly of WRA Environmental Consultants listen to au...
Audience members at a public meeting on Feb. 24 at San Luis Rey Downs golf course listen to explanations about the proposed sale of the golf course. During a show of hands at the meeting, the vast majority of the crowd of approximately 300 individuals identified themselves as opposed to the proposed changes.
Audience members at a public meeting on Feb. 24 at San Luis Rey Downs golf course listen to explanations about the proposed sale of the golf course. D...

Closure of golf course appears certain


Vessels’ representative says “it makes no sense to lose money year after year”


Thursday, February 27th, 2014
Issue 09, Volume 18.
Debbie Ramsey
Managing Editor


A crowd of over 300 people attended a public meeting Monday evening, Feb. 24 at San Luis Rey Downs (SLRD) clubhouse in Bonsall, and learned the closure of the golf course appears certain.

Bill Thead, who has worked with three generations of the Vessels family (owner of San Luis Rey Downs Enterprises), told the crowd "A once profitable golf course, [SLRD] has lost money each year for nine years and nothing will change that in the foreseeable future. It makes no sense to lose money year after year. Seeing it close is a sad event."

Pending final regulatory approval, it was explained that the 185-acre property would be sold to Conservation Land Group (CLG), which would work to return the property to its natural state circa mid-1940s, before development.

Tim DeGraff of WRA Environmental Consultants said, "We would be putting back some of the historical aspects of the area and help restore riparian birds and the Arroyo toad."

The new plan to create Moosa Creek mitigation bank would rehabilitate and re-establish riverline and depressional wetlands and restore wetland and non-wetland riparian habitat. Once transformed, CLG would operate the environmental mitigation bank, selling credits to developers who are required by government agencies to offset the environmental impact of their construction projects. Speakers indicated the mitigation bank could serve not only developers in San Diego County, but in southern Orange County as well.

"In an appraisal of the property, it was clear the highest and best use for it was not as a golf course, but as a mitigation bank," said Thead. "There will not be any houses built on the land... it will be in an irrevocable conservation agreement."

Thead took issue with comments from community members that the existing owners "owed it to the community" to keep the property operating as a golf course.

"No one would sell it for a pittance of its value," said Thead. "CLG has the exclusive option to purchase this property for a mitigation bank. No one else can purchase it. We feel this is a sound use for this property."

Thead also discounted the need for the course to provide a venue for area high school and college teams to play or practice; or to host charity tournaments.

"We have been happy to host high school and college teams here, but there is a great supply of courses in the area and [the teams] will easily find other solutions, the same with charity tournaments," said Thead.

Duff McGrath, coach of the Vista High School golf team, graciously expressed a different opinion.

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and we’ve had a wonderful relationship [with SLRD]," said McGrath. "I thought this was a meeting where we could provide input, but I can see it’s more of a done deal. I’m sad, but want to thank SLRD management for letting schools play here. It’s not as easy as you say to find a course. I think we will become a team without one."

Jon Frandell, president of the Fallbrook Chamber of Commerce, addressed the panel of speakers and voiced his concerns about the environment an area of extensive wetlands could create, including flooding, virus-carrying pests, and stagnant pools of water.

According to Kevin Knowles, one of the three owners of CLG along with Ed Flynn and Brian Sweeney, "We also have the option to buy a separate, 60-acre parcel on the north side of Camino Del Rey from SLRD Enterprises. We aren’t sure if we will exercise that option or not yet.

A large number of attendees expressed concern about what might happen to their property values if they bordered a mitigation bank/wetland.

Knowles said, "There is no way for us to say for certain how it will affect property values."

Bob Hillery, a local real estate professional, said property owners should be concerned. "Essentially, this will bring a marsh to the doorsteps of many homeowners, and standing water brings critters, bugs, and it smells."

"I have serious concerns that property values will decrease with these wetlands," said Hillery.

It appears the mitigation bank may also provide significant credits for the final segment of the State Route 76 expansion project and be compatible with the future San Luis Rey River Park which is planned to feature active recreation, passive recreation, and biological open space.

"When SANDAG and Caltrans build a road, they need mitigation credits," said DeGraff.

"It is well-known that these credits are like gold and can be bought and sold; they must be worth a lot of money," said Deborah Howard, a Bonsall resident of two years. "I love our beautiful Bonsall and want to preserve the quality of life we have here. The intended consequences of this river are far reaching and because of it, I can foresee another Temecula-like community when the 76 construction is complete."

The Moosa Creek mitigation bank project is currently under review by the Army Corps of Engineers and the public comment period has now been extended for a second time, until March 31, to allow opportunity for neighbors of the land to provide their input about the proposed plan.

The plan may be reviewed at www.usace.army.mil/Portals/17/docs/publicnotices/MoosaCreek_PN.pdf

Comments about it may be emailed to Shanti.A.Santulli@usace.army.mil.


 

13 comments

Comment Profile Image2 real
Comment #1 | Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:56 am
I better get my rounds in before it closes,I'm gonna miss SLRD.
Comment Profile ImageBirdman
Comment #2 | Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:49 pm
The ironic thing is that, if this land was now a wetlands and someone was proposing turning it into a golf course, these NIMBYS would be howling and fighting it. Basically, people like this just don't want any change or progress of any kind.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #3 | Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Good!

HOWEVER, actually out of all of our golf courses, it is actually this one, San Luis Rey Downs Golf Course, that makes the most sense to keep open from an ecological point of view on account that it somewhat sits in a water basin albeit a mostly dry one most of the time. If there ARE golf courses that should be closed it's basically all the others -- Pala, Fallbrook, etc. -- on account that they are water guzzlers.

But after all is said and done, good riddance!

Get over it, folks! Instead of hearing, "Foooooooooore!", you'll hear the real thing: birds chirpin'. It might take you a while to get used to it, but I have faith in you.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #4 | Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:07 pm
This should be the volume of residents opposing the merger between fpud and rainbow mwd. Keep it separate protect what's yours
Comment Profile ImageJustin
Comment #5 | Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:54 pm
If people don't like what' looks to be coming to the course I have an easy fix, buy it. It's the Vessels land and they can sell it as they see fit.
Comment Profile ImageOmen
Comment #6 | Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:04 am
I don't know what that has to do with any merger but it sure makes you wonder what is really being planned behind the scenes hmmm
Comment Profile ImageRobert Sommers
Comment #7 | Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Historically, the lay of the land makes little sense for a golf course. Read Cleland's The Cattle on a thousand hills, During the flood of 1861, after five weeks of continuous rain, there was a fifty foot vertical cut in the valley. Anybody know about the 1916 flood, the story of the infamous and unfortunate Charles Hatfield? Similar devastation. Sixth greatest flood in California history. Major flooding is expected to occur every 10 to 15 years in this area. floodplain.org/files/FMA09_TribalPanel_Agahi_SanDiegoCounty.pdf
Many of you might remember the 1993 flood, it caused millions of dollars of damage to the San Luis Rey valley. Google Storm-induced Geologic Hazards: Case Histories from the 1992-1993 ..., Volume 11
edited by Robert A. Larson, James E. Slosson
Comment Profile ImageDR DR
Comment #8 | Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
@Robert Sommers - I do remember the floods - the bridge washed out and then the second one.

Along Camino Del Rey, past the Saratoga Estates to OH395 has never sold due to flood zone, even after many housing developers tried to change the zoning. But when was the last time that area flooded? Have always been curious in my 35 years here.
Comment Profile Imageobservant
Comment #9 | Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:41 pm
The residents should demand a minimum 100 foot buffer/ landscape easement for brush clearing. The fire department should require it.
Comment Profile ImageMatt
Comment #10 | Monday, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 am
Pesticides from the golf course are much worse for local homeowners than open space would be.
Comment Profile ImageRon
Comment #11 | Monday, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:23 pm
I know how to make everyone happy, i.e. 100 acre golf course that will gross 3 million a year and an 80 acre conservation that could be used as a running/exercise trail. Have already done one and would like to do another. The new course would be for all abilities and be family friendly. Would not hurt to talk!

Ron Lavoie
Rflavoie@gmail.com
Comment Profile ImageQueen
Comment #12 | Thursday, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:02 pm
@ #5 Justin, well said. Also, this area is used to flooding naturally, so why not let it go back to its natural state? As for the mosquitoes, them buggers are here already!
Comment Profile ImageJD
Comment #13 | Thursday, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:41 pm
Arguments against golf, citing water use, are really ignorant. Recreation comes in all forms. People shop at malls, so malls use water. If you don't shop there, is the water a waste? How much water does Qualcomm stadium or Petco park use? If you don't like sports, I guess you get mad about the water use. What about water at public parks? I don't go to parks, so should I complain about the water use? No. Just silly. That being said, golf is declining, so one less public course that was average at best..no loss.

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