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Firefighters contain roadside brush fire at 12 acres near Lawrence Welk Resort and Interstate 15


Monday, August 19th, 2013
Issue 34, Volume 17.
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ESCONDIDO - Firefighters contained a blaze that blackened about a dozen acres of brush near the southbound side of Interstate 15 near the Lawrence Welk Resort yesterday, August 19, and prompted authorities to close three lanes in the area.

Callers reported flames and smoke between Gopher Canyon and Deer Springs roads shortly after 9:30 a.m., which led to the temporary closure of three southbound lanes, according to Cal Fire and the California Highway Patrol.

Cal Fire Battalion Chief Nick Schuler said fire crews knocked down the blaze by early afternoon, but firefighters remained at the scene for several hours.

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Two lanes on southbound Interstate 15 remain closed due to brush fire near roadway

Debbie Ramsey

Managing Editor

The California Highway Patrol has reported that the #3 and #4 lanes on southbound Interstate 15 just south of Gopher Canyon Road will remain closed until at least 1:30 p.m. today due to a vegetation fire that has been burning close to the roadway.

The fire erupted at approximately 9:30 this morning and is only 30 percent contained. At times, helicopters have been landed on the freeway to assist in firefighting efforts.

A Sig Alert was issued for the incident at 10 a.m.

The CHP has stated southbound traffic is currently backed up into the Temecula area.


 

10 comments

Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #1 | Wednesday, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm
You mean firefighters actually did something right?!
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #2 | Thursday, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:35 am
Many of us owe everything we have to firefighters. They risk their live doing an incredibly difficult job.
You should be ashamed of yourself Lee for making such an insulting comment.
Comment Profile Image@ lee
Comment #3 | Thursday, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:02 pm
You are just as dumb as your dumb comments....1 day when you need a firefighter I hope they are NOT there for you.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #4 | Thursday, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:53 pm
@ #2 Preston

"You should be ashamed of yourself Lee for making such an insulting comment."

And you should be ashamed for being so ignorant! They have and are building themselves "palaces" thevillagenews.com/story/72854/ at the tax-payers' expense. Just take a look at the new fire station # 7 in Oceanside off the 76 across the street from the drive-ins. If that isn't a palace, I don't know what is! It was built during the economic crisis and cost a whopping $8 million. jeffzubik.com/portfolio/public-works/20-oceanside-fire-station-7 A retired local firefighter -- yes in his early fifties, of course -- told me a few years ago that the starting salary of a firefighter is either $80k or $85k/year. (I can't quite remember the exact number, but DO remember it was in the 80s.)

And you now want to tell me that I should be ashamed to criticize a group of folks who, at the most, work 5% of the year and make that much money?! Oh yes, and he added that EVERYTHING above that is OT!

So why don't we use the same argument that is always held against teachers, which is to pay them for the ACTUAL time they work, i.e., just as teachers are criticized for earning twelve months pay while only working 9 months? Why don't we use the same principle on firefighters? Why not?!

Think of the money we, tax payers, could save!

Sure, there could be a select few who would man the station permanently, but others would be paid ONLY as they are needed and for the ACTUAL time they are fighting a fire.

Ain't that how it works in the real world, you know, you're paid for the ACTUAL time you work?!

Preston, keep on drinkin' firefighters' indoctrinating Koolaid!
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #5 | Thursday, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:56 pm
@Lee - be willing to bet Fire Fighters "did something right" more often than you.
Comment Profile ImageCheck it out
Comment #6 | Friday, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:03 am
Clearly the only one drinking kool-ade here is the Lee-meister. I wonder how many actual people populate his "world". Where would you like the firefighters, who are off duty, to wait until a "real emergency" happens Lee? If they are off duty pal, they are off duty, which means they could be in Escondido, Temecula, or Tim Buc 2. Do you understand, really understand, that it takes time to get home, change into your uniform, get to your fire station, put on your gear, and get to the fire? By then Lee, your house is toast or that heart attack you just had, has proved fatal. Want to gamble on that? As for your argument that firefighters work only 5% of the time (obviously you are parroting Me, a guy who hates the fire service for personal reasons) and you haven't taken the time to check out the facts for yourself (nothing unusual there, that is your usual method of operation) firefighters work a lot more than 5% of the time, they don't just sit around waiting for a call to come in you know. That is ridiculous. That is like saying teachers only work 4 hours a day and get 3 months paid vacation in the summer. You, Lee, might want to try actually walking in someone else's shoes before you condemn them out of hand, however that is not your style, and you probably couldn't cut it anyway. As far as salary goes, every fire department has different pay and benefit packages. We happen to be fortunate enough in Fallbrook, because our board of directors have kept the department fiscally sound, to afford the best and the most elite. You should be proud, not jealous. Before you attack me for being a firefighter myself, I am not. I know a few of them personally, just as I know several cops, and quite a few teachers and professional people. I couldn't cut it as a firefighter, not my thing. Hopefully Lee, you will never require the fire department's services, but if you do, you should be happy to know that you will be in good hands.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #7 | Saturday, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:06 pm
@ #6 Check it out

"Where would you like the firefighters, who are off duty, to wait until a "real emergency" happens Lee? If they are off duty pal, they are off duty, which means they could be in Escondido, Temecula, or Tim Buc 2. Do you understand, really understand, that it takes time to get home, change into your uniform, get to your fire station, put on your gear, and get to the fire? By then Lee, your house is toast or that heart attack you just had, has proved fatal. Want to gamble on that?" Apparently, you did not read -- or conveniently omitted to -- my statement, "Sure, there could be a select few who would man the station permanently . . . ", meaning that there ALWAYS would be a sufficient amount of firefighters on duty at ALL times to handle things as you mentioned, a burning house, or a medical condition, etc. It is in events such as LARGE brush fires that these additional firefighters could and would be deployed and be paid for those campaigns and those campaigns ALONE. Once the fire is extinguished, these firefighters would return to their other/regular jobs. For them, there would be sufficient time to . . . " . . . get home, change into your uniform, get to your fire station, put on your gear, and get to the fire." Cool?

"As for your argument that firefighters work only 5% of the time (obviously you are parroting Me, a guy who hates the fire service for personal reasons) and you haven't taken the time to check out the facts for yourself (nothing unusual there, that is your usual method of operation) firefighters work a lot more than 5% of the time, they don't just sit around waiting for a call to come in you know. That is ridiculous." Wanna bet? PLEASE explain to me, and our fellow readers, EXACTLY what firefighters do when they are NOT dousing fires or responding to a medical emergency! Can you PLEASE be so kind and explain all those duties/tasks that require the hard-working taxpayer to pay for THOSE, shall we say, "services"? I whole-heartedly look forward to your extensive list of these non-essential tasks.

" . . . and you probably couldn't cut it anyway." How do you know?

" We happen to be fortunate enough in Fallbrook, because our board of directors have kept the department fiscally sound, to afford the best and the most elite." And a very expensive firefighting crew who, as I said, earn around $80k/year as a starting salary here in Fallbrook. Their SALARY should NOT have anything to do whether or not they are elite firefighters, don't you think? It's like saying that a doctor will ONLY perform a successful heart surgery if he/she makes $300k/year as opposed to $100k/year. I think a doctor, like a firefighter, should be elite no matter the salary. Call me crazy. So why such a high salary for a firefighter . . . unless, of course, you disagree that a starting salary of $80k/year for a firefighter here in Fallbrook is NOT high? Please explain.

"You should be proud, not jealous." I am proud. But here's the point you're missin': I AM the one flippin' the bill. So when I AM the one flippin' the bill, I, THE PEOPLE, should have a say so, comprende?

"I couldn't cut it as a firefighter . . . " So sorry; I could.

"Hopefully Lee, you will never require the fire department's services, but if you do, you should be happy to know that you will be in good hands." . . . whether they earn $80k/year or less. Firefighting is, after all, about . . . firefighting, NOT about becoming wealthy. Would you not agree with this statement? Firefighters are GREAT patriots who love their country . . . and hopefully not their wallets; otherwise they are NOT great patriots.

PS. Psst, it's Timbuktu, not the way you spelled it.
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Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #8 | Saturday, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:37 pm
@ #3 @lee

" . . . 1 day when you need a firefighter I hope they are NOT there for you." Wow, so what you are saying is that you want our firefighters to do something . . . illegal? How revealing.
Comment Profile ImageSeriously??
Comment #9 | Sunday, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:03 pm
As usual, Lee completely overreacts, goes off the deep end and has a meltdown. How does repeating what other people have to say, and coming up with silly responses, answer a question? I believe that the firefighters who are on duty, at each given shift, at each of the 5 fire stations, are, as Lee says, a "select few". Do you not realize Lee, how many people, in the NCFPD they actually serve? Would you like everyone to be protected, or just those lucky enough to have the first emergency, not the second or third? If you REALLY want to know the exact list of duties that firefighters perform, each day, go down to the fire department headquarters and ask for a compiled list, they will be more than happy to comply. As for Timbuktu, who the heck cares how you spell it? Bet you had to look it up, didn't you? I'm pretty sure that Check it Out spelled in phonetically so as not to confuse you. You say that you are capable of cutting it as a firefighter Lee? How do you know? Ever been to the academy? Ever ran up hill carrying a full pack in 100 degree heat? I doubt it. Ever risked your life for anyone or anything? Somehow I don't think so. Someone who has to think about whether or not they would protect a loved one from an attacker isn't going to cut it in an emergency situation.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #10 | Wednesday, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:21 pm
@ #9 Seriously

"As usual, Lee completely overreacts, goes off the deep end and has a meltdown." Really? Can you please show specific examples in this thread where I do any of the things you have just mentioned? You know, readers of my comments -- or anybody else's -- do not need after-the-fact mind coaching a la the fair and balanced news channel that I am sure you watch beyond religious devotion. People have a mind of their own. Comprende?

"How does repeating what other people have to say, and coming up with silly responses, answer a question?" Exactly which answers are silly? Please explain.

"Do you not realize Lee, how many people, in the NCFPD they actually serve?" Sure I do.

"Would you like everyone to be protected, or just those lucky enough to have the first emergency, not the second or third?" I want EVERYBODY protected. I have made that already clear I think. My contention is firefighters' salaries, benefits, pensions and retirement packages.

"If you REALLY want to know the exact list of duties that firefighters perform, each day, go down to the fire department headquarters and ask for a compiled list, they will be more than happy to comply." Apparently you know it so well. Why don't you share it with us? Go ahead.

"As for Timbuktu, who the heck cares how you spell it?" Please DO show us your arrogance believing that your doo-doo don't stink. Psst, it does just like ANY human being's on earth. Hope that ain't news to you.

"Bet you had to look it up, didn't you?" Nope.

"You say that you are capable of cutting it as a firefighter Lee? How do you know?" I am pretty strong enough to hold a hose with water, albeit at a very high pressure rate which, then, requires one or two additional folks to hold it. Ain't rocket science. Hate to break that to ya.

"Ever risked your life for anyone or anything? Somehow I don't think so." How do you know? Besides, this isn't about me; this is about the firefighters! I sincerely hope they risk their lives for others: that is their job. Hello. But why do they need to be paid so much? That is my point of contention yet again. Comprende?

"Someone who has to think about whether or not they would protect a loved one from an attacker isn't going to cut it in an emergency situation." Aah, you want to revisit this conversation again, do you? www.thevillagenews.com/story/72760 No problem. You left that conversation mysteriously only to appear here doing nothing but attacking my points with baseless comments. You are determined to prove to Fallbrook, and the world, your ignorance. No problem. I'm cool with that.

PS. Oh btw, I'm still confused about you believing my comments to be nauseating . . . yet continuing to read and comment on them. What does that say about your self-esteem?

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