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Two fires now burning on Camp Pendleton


Thursday, April 18th, 2013
Issue 16, Volume 17.
Debbie Ramsey
Managing Editor
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There are now two wildfires burning on Camp Pendleton, according to officials.

The wildland fire that began yesterday, April 18, at approximately 10:30 a.m. has now consumed approximately 425 acres but is close to being extinguished.

"That fire, which is in our Zulu Impact Area, is now 95 percent contained," said Lt. Ryan Finnegan, Base spokesman. "However, there is also a second fire burning."

Finnegan said the newer fire is smaller and no acreage numbers have been provided yet.

"It is further north of the first fire, but still in the central portion of the Base," he said. "There is no threat to our surrounding communities."

He also said no injuries or property damage have been sustained in either blaze.

"Our fire crews are working diligently to extinguish these fires," said Finnegan.

It has been reported that weapons drills sparked the blazes during training exercises.

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Wildfire on Camp Pendleton has consumed 80 acres so far

CAMP PENDLETON - The Camp Pendleton Fire Department is currently fighting a wildland fire here.

The fire began at approximately 10:30 a.m. in the Zulu Impact Area of the base and has burned more than 80 acres. The fire started as a result of live-fire training.

Current assets on-hand include three brush trucks and one water tender.

There are no reports of any injuries or damage to any structures. At this time there is no threat to any of the surrounding communities of the base.

For future inquiries regarding Camp Pendleton fire updates, please refer to the fire information page on the Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton Web site at http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/About/BaseInformation/FireInformation.aspx


 

48 comments

Comment Profile Imagestupid
Comment #1 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm
wow, live fire training on a hot windy day, that's real brilliant, NOT!
Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #2 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:19 pm
I knew I smelled smoke, we know you'll put it out soon enough.
Comment Profile ImageJackie
Comment #3 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Hopefully this one will burn some brush around the impact area and nothing else, making future live fire exercises safer now that some of the fuel is gone. Fires with these winds just make me nervous
Comment Profile ImageAre you kidding?
Comment #4 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:48 pm
How many times do we have to see this? Every time there is a fire on base, people complain and can't believe they train when it's too hot or windy or smoky. Get over it, they are so pressed for time and they don't have the luxury of waiting until its convenient. The impact area are designed for just that purpose and they have contingency plans in place. The base does a wonderful job at balancing the needs of training with handling emergencies, geez!
Comment Profile ImageEW
Comment #5 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:58 pm
In their usual arrogant fashion, the powers that be at Pendleton decided to have live fire during the time of higher fire danger in the area. Way to goooo, jerks. They want be happy until the burn down some houses, which almost happened a few years ago.
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #6 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:17 pm
As predicted, the mental midgets at the marine base pick a "Red Flag Alert" day to drop bombs......


Instead of "Sounds of Freedom"...we should call it the "Sounds of Stupid."
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Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #7 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm
"Are you kidding?"

One of those brilliant "contingency plans" has now grown to 80 acres......
Comment Profile ImageJackie
Comment #8 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Wish they would provide more updates on the fires status, for hours it's been the same. Are you kidding me, I understand they have to train I don't mind the noise or small fires that get put out promptly. However when on their own fire stations site it states the fire danger level is at the highest rating and they then do live fire and don't put it out promptly it does upset me. Especially that I take care of my elderly mother who suffers greatly from bad air quality ( lung tumors and never smoked a day in her life) So yes any and all fires make me nervous
Comment Profile ImageFYI...
Comment #9 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Training occurs at Camp Pendleton on a daily basis whether the weather condition is wet, dry, cold, hot, calm, windy or any combination of the aforementioned. Fires occur there regularly even when you do not know it or smell the smoke in Fallbrook. It just so happens that today is one of those windy days (refer to previous mention of weather conditions) and the smoke found its way to Fallbrook, hence you passed the smell test. So, as 'Are you kidding?' said, get over it.
Comment Profile Imagemarinewife
Comment #10 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:49 pm
It's a great opportunity for fire fighters to train too. Relax people!
Comment Profile ImageJackie
Comment #11 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Good news is that they have it mostly contained, woo Hoo
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #12 | Thursday, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:12 pm
One of the perceptions among the military is that they (the military) went to war, and America went to the mall. In other words, the military has been dealing with war for 10 plus years now, and the rest of us have carried on as though nothing was different. As though we weren't at war. As though we've sacrificed nothing, which is the case.

How nice. How nice to come home to your family every night. How nice to not be risking your life 24 hours per day. How nice not to have sand in every orfice of your body. How nice not to see your brothers blown to bits.

Ah yes, it's not my problem. But make a little smoke in my backyard? Are you kidding me? Just who do these Marines think they are??? I don't care about their hardships, they volunteered, right?

You selfish, useless, P...s.

There is a training operation going on right now that has been planned months in advance. The pilots involved in these exercises are part of the support of Marines on the ground. They're the ones who come and give air support when the Taliban has the balls to attack with 200 fighters against a squad of Marines. I want those pilots to be good at getting the bad guys. I want them to practice until they can do it in their sleep. I want our Marines to have every advantage we can give them, even if I have to smell smoke.

If you can't understand this, if you're still bothered, you are the most selfish people God has created.
Comment Profile ImageWizard of Fallbrook
Comment #13 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:04 am
Same fire different year....Last year we had fires at the base all the time...Hopefully they keep it contained..but there is always a chance that it could jump the hills and head toward Fallbrook...
Comment Profile Imagejoe
Comment #14 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:09 am
Don't forget us selfish, useless, P.ss. pay the bills. It's all a balance, just wish they would have waited until friday when the winds are supposed to die down.
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #15 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:45 am
Thank you Redneck. Well said.
Comment Profile Imagemomz
Comment #16 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:32 am
Redneck, I agree with you. God Bless our men and women who fight for our freedom. So many can sit around and complain about smell of smoke and sounds of fire. Get up and stand up as Americans.
Comment Profile ImageJackie
Comment #17 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:13 am
I don't understand why not liking fires on this forum immediately means people jump down your throats about not liking the marines or being selfish. You can support the troops and still not like fires. In fact these fires put our military in danger as well, not only directly but time spent putting out the fires actually takes away from time they could be training. I just think it's time to look at training timing and do the best for both civilians and military. I'm sure someone will call me Unpatriotic but oh well. I adore most marines, I believe in what they do but I also believe it would be more efficient to not waste military resources putting out fires that could be avoided. They work hard enough to give us freedom, why put one more thing on their plate with bad air quality and training stalled until fires are put out??
Comment Profile ImageProud Marine
Comment #18 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Because these exercises are done in areas of brush growth some fires are expected. The Camp Pendleton Fire Department is on hand as well as stand by to get the fires out once they start. No one likes fires Jackie, but in instance like this they are for the most part unavoidable and quickly contained.
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #19 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Because Jackie...that's how they operate.

Don't you know? We're supposed to enjoy cracked stucco and loud explosions at all hours of the day or night....week after week. Even those of us who DIDN'T buy our homes just outside the gates of Pendleton....and the threat of fires burning down our homes just makes us anti-American.
Comment Profile ImageLiana
Comment #20 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Santa Ana winds are heading our way!
Comment Profile ImageSB
Comment #21 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:49 pm
I'm also tired of seeing all the accusations of not being appreciative of the military anytime someone complains about the noise or the fire or whatever. I'm extremely appreciative of the military. I worked for them for years, I have family and friends in the military. My dad was a WWII vet, my brother served 2 tours in Vietnam. I believe in being ready to defend the country and yet - and yet this was a stupid decision on the part of the officers in charge, to have live fire going on during a Santa Ana AND a red flag fire warning! And I don't like the noise and dust, and I'm not likely to move because this is the only place I could afford to buy a house to begin with.

If you love the military, fine, that doesn't give you the right to verbally abuse anyone who complains about the problems being near the base causes. Those who run the base need to be aware of the community who are their neighbors. Who pay the taxes that support them, and who, many of us, have loved ones who do go to war.

Besides, going to war is not the only hardship any American ever endures. There is plenty of hardship right here at home. The attitude that soldiers have it harder than others or sacrifice more than others is completely self-centered. Grow up and get over it!

But what I really came here to say before reading the comments is, thank you Fallbrook Village News for keeping us apprised of the fires and progress fighting them. When the air is full of smoke it can cause a constant stress, and it's so good to be able to come here and get updates.
Comment Profile ImageRed Head
Comment #22 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Gosh "Me", since you don't seem to like Marines or firefighters, I guess you are totally s-----d.
Comment Profile ImageCindy
Comment #23 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm
I just read this fire was started by a fatal helicopter crash - not from being "stupid."

Two Marines died in the crash. Have some respect before you jump to conclusions.
Comment Profile ImageMary B.
Comment #24 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Quick question, we are new home owners and one month after we moved in our insurance sent us a notice of cancellation. We are in Fallbrook right off De Luz Rd. We have been calling everyone no one will insure us and yes we have a mortgage so I am seriously worried what they will do. Any suggestions?
Thank you
Comment Profile ImageLynster
Comment #25 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Sorry, that the base uses such poor evaluations & judgement DURING HIGH FIRE DAYS with HIGH WIND WARNNINGS that are North Westerly . Does that mean that if my house burns down or is damaged by the base's fire that I can sue the Federal Government???? Somewhat like when the people who lost their homes did when SDGE didn't do maintenance properly on their electrical equipment.

Note: Saw Ca Fire truck going up Olive Hill heading towards Sleeping Indian around 5:15pm maybe to help fight the fire. Guess that the fire isn't under control as much as they say.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #26 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:09 pm
You just made my point, Me. It's all about Me, isn't it. My peace and quiet disturbed, my unfounded fears of my house burning down, my cracked stucco. (You do realize there isn't a stucco house anywhere that doesn't develop cracks over time, whether they're on Camp Pendleton or elsewhere in the country.)

I'm not suggesting you're anti American. I'm suggesting you're selfish. I suppose all of us are to some extent on different issues.

I know these boards don't change people's opinions, so there really is no need to go into much detail about what you have been asked to sacrifice as a person living in a country at war (tolerate is probably a better word) vice what our Marines have. But it breaks my heart seeing them come home disfigured and missing limbs. (We can't see the injury many carry with them.) They are willing to give everything. EVERYTHING. And many have made the ultimate sacrifice.

So against that backdrop, try as I might, I can't understand people complaining about our Marines training to make themselves safer. To maybe avoid injury and death.
Comment Profile Imagelynster
Comment #27 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Saw Ca Fire Truck going up Olive Hill heading towards Sleeping Indian around
5:15pm maybe Camp Pendleton needs some help!
Comment Profile ImageLinda
Comment #28 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:26 pm
I've lived here in Temecula for 26 years now, and I can't tell you how many fires are going on at Camp Pendleton every single year, its mind boggling. Perhaps they need a higher level of training? There have been MANY fatalities in choppers there. I agree though, just because we dont like fires every year, and NOISE, don't get on OUR case, we in Temecula did not bargain or ask for any of this. More precautions are necessary, obviously, and because of the large population near the base, more concern for the civilians nearby also. I believe part of the land is actually supposed to be environmental preserve, yeah, right! Mary B. - I'm guessin its due to the high fire risk where you live, we've had a very dry winter, probably going to have a very hot summer, and there's lots of dry brush in your area. Bummer!
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #29 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Cal Fire as well as NCFPD are on alert just to be on the safe side during any wildfires on Pendleton.
Comment Profile ImageSB
Comment #30 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Mary B., you could try an independent agent, who will find a willing insurer for you. Best of luck, and welcome to Fallbrook!
Comment Profile ImageMarines = Savages
Comment #31 | Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:16 pm
They're not fighting for freedom. They're fighting brutal wars of US imperialist domination. If you don't want to be a murderer, don't enlist.
Comment Profile Imagemaryann
Comment #32 | Saturday, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:58 am
Especially to SB, Comment #21: Lived in Fallbrook ten years now. Lived with multiple fires for ten years now. So very tired of it. SB, you wrote what I wanted to say. Thank you and also thank the Village News for keeping us informed. It's the first place I look when I smell smoke - and you know what they say about smoke, don't you?
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #33 | Saturday, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:47 am
Looks like you were the one jumping to conclusions "Cindy."

Oh and Redneck Bill.....they sign up. Nobody is forced to join.
Comment Profile ImageGRUNT
Comment #34 | Saturday, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:14 am
@31 - please, please tell me what Imperial Domination - what is the "American Empire"? Who do we dominated? The military does NOT go to war - the elected President of these country SENDS us. Your "name" reflects what I have said here before, it seems the liberals rather call names than offer an intelligent statement.
Comment Profile Imageyvonne
Comment #35 | Saturday, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Wow, so many off topic arguments, so do any of you know how many civilian
houses have caught fire in the many years the Marines have been training on CP?

Since I've been attached to The Marines for the last 30 years I can't remember of any, refresh my memory please.

If you can't handle living so clos e to a military base don't buy other, the base has been there longer than most of us have been aroubd,.


God Bless our Marines,
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #36 | Sunday, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:41 am
Village News -- Please use my second comment with additional link

@ Mary B.
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http://www.amica.com/

http://www.jdpower.com/consumer-ratings/insurance/ratings/909201507/2013-Property+Claims+Satisfaction+Study/index.htm
Comment Profile ImageShut up sheep
Comment #37 | Sunday, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:15 am
Get over yourselves. All of you sound like children
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #38 | Sunday, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:49 am
@Yvonne: The last time a fire on Camp Pendleton got out of control and crossed into civilian land was back in the 1970s. It burned for 9 days in De Luz Canyon. That is the only time I can remember it happening since I have been in Fallbrook. The other major fires in town were caused by a "controlled" burn that got out of control in De Luz on private property in Feb 2003 (Santa Ana winds) and of course the one back in 2007 caused by SDG&E. I think some people just like to complain and any excuse is better than none.
Comment Profile Image@pink
Comment #39 | Sunday, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:54 pm
but did the fire in 70's damage or destroy homes?
Comment Profile Image26YrRes
Comment #40 | Sunday, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Actually Pink the one in 2003 burned my neighbors house in De Luz. That was not a controlled burn. That was their aim off on bombing and they hit a patch of chaparral. They gave the marines five gallon buckets to put out a fire the size or a Costco. I worked with one or the marines involved and they told me what happened. It almost burned down my family's ranch. Their bombing during dry season is careless and selfish. They put hundreds of homeowners at risk every year. If they're going to bomb they need to clear the entire area first of any brush. Which they don't do.
Comment Profile Imagejoe
Comment #41 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:16 am
MARY B;
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(760) 749-1970
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #42 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:15 am
The goal of these training missions is to ultimately protect Americans not put their lives and homes in danger. I understand the importance of training however when weather conditions (or any other factor) create a situation where the danger of the mission to outweighs the benefit it should be postponed to a safer time or moved to a safer location. We all have to do this as citizens, and we should expect no less from our government.
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #43 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:33 am
Yes Comment#39 it did burn homes and it was a terrible thing, my point was that it was over 35 years ago. The fire in Feb 2003 was caused by a controlled burn in De Luz that got out of hand, Cal Fire rolled on it and put it out, but because it wasn't during "fire season" they did not keep a truck on it all night, that would have put them into overtime, which the state was not willing to pay. During the night the Santa Ana's started blowing (unusual for Feb) and it kicked up embers that were under the debris. It had nothing to do with Camp Pendleton 26yr res. I know the fire investigator who determined the cause. Actually Camp Pendleton lost one of their engines to the fire trying to protect homes in De Luz Canyon.
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Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #44 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:14 pm
I need to correct myself. My husband informs me, and he should know, that the fire I am speaking of took place in Feb 2002 NOT 2003 as I previously stated. If there was also one in 2003 that started on Pendleton I apologize to 26 yr res. Wasn't that the year where there were fires burning in Valley Center and Anaheim Hills as well? I don't think that was in Feb though, late October as I remember it. I will look it up.
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Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #45 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:49 pm
I checked it out. The fire I am referring to started on Sunday Feb 10, 2002, caused by smouldering debris from the "controlled" fire in De Luz (burning rubbish) it was kicked up by unseasonable Santa Ana winds. Over 5000 acres were burned and 30 homes were destroyed. The fire in 2003 that I believe 26 yr res is speaking of was in Oct 2003, that was the year that all those terrible fires were burning in Ramona, Lakeside, Julian, as well as the San Bernardino mountains and the Los Padres Nat'l forest in L.A. Fallbrook, fortunately was unscathed. There was a fire on Pendleton around the same time however that burned over 4600 acres. No homes were lost. Just a reminder, fire season is starting early this year. Please be careful.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #46 | Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Hey Pink,

I don't think the others care much about the facts. They're just angry for some reason at the Marines. I wish I could see their point, but I don't.

But the fire you talk about in 2003 was called the Gavilan fire. It started on February 10th. 6 houses within a tenth of a mile of my house burned down, 45 total. Mine would have, but my neighbor is a widow, and by the time she had her poop together and was ready to leave the fire was coming across the road and we couldn't get out. So I stayed and kept going around putting fires out with garden hoses. (We now have 1 1/2 inch fire hoses.)

The fire started on the north side of the Santa Margarita River, where Sandia Creek crosses it. Actually east of there. As you said, it was an agricultural burn, which was allowed in the old days. And it smoldered and got fired up in the 50 to 60 knot winds that blew that next morning.
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #47 | Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:54 am
Thanks RB. Yes, that is the fire I was speaking of but it was 2002 not 2003. I thought it was 2003 until I looked it up. I saw the smoke as we were leaving church on that Sunday morning, by the time we took Stage Coach to East Mission there was already a stream of cars coming down Santa Margarita trying to escape the flames and tree branches on fire were falling on De Luz Rd, we helped friends evacuate their animals off of North Main. That was a very scary time. I agree people don't much want to know the facts, they just want to find a reason to complain.
Comment Profile ImageRedneck Bill
Comment #48 | Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Oops. I meant 2002. And I was there. It sucks getting old. At least I still remember my name, I think.

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