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Stabbing incident leaves three men with injuries; all have ties to criminal street gang


Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Issue 10, Volume 17.
Debbie Ramsey
Managing Editor


An incident that occurred around midnight, Wednesday, March 6 in Fallbrook resulted in three local men sustaining a multitude of stab wounds.

According to Sheriff's Lt. Todd Richardson, the altercation took place in the 1100 block of South Vine Street and involved men ages 19, 20, and 23 - all with known ties to Fallbrook's criminal street gang.

"Two of the three men sustained critical, life-threatening injuries, but are Advertisement
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in stable condition now at an area hospital," said Richardson, adding the other sustained wounds that were not as critical.

Richardson confirmed that two of the individuals "are documented members of the street gang," but all have ties to it.

Officials said none of the three men are cooperating with police and no charges have been filed yet against any of them.

The investigation into the violent incident continues.


 

33 comments

Comment Profile ImageDisgusted
Comment #1 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:11 am
Too bad they survived.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #2 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:33 am
No charges?! What the?!

My dear fellow Fallbrookers, when you see a crime being committed, get out your smartphones, press REC and IMMEDIATELY contact law enforcement!

The pen, in this case video/photography, is mightier than the sword.

If these idiot criminals don't want to learn this simple paradigm and lesson the easy way and realize that this paradigm shift IS occurring, well then they'll find out the hard way: contemplating this thought for a long time . . . while sitting in prison.

Oh well.
Comment Profile ImageRe?????
Comment #3 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:59 pm
No charges have been filed as of yet, and non are talking or cooperating at this point. Well this is how this needs to be handled. Put them in jail, let them sit there and think about how they want to handle this. Either you give up, or you continue to sit there. We do not need this silly, irresponsible, idiot-ism within our streets with the people who actually care about the town and the reputation of our town. People, people, people, like Lee said, if you see a crime being committed, do not hesitate to open that phone and to make that call. It takes the whole town to get rid of the roaches, and believe you me, there are a lot of them. If we do not eradicate them they will continue to breed this filth.
Comment Profile Imagecorrect
Comment #4 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm
I agree with Disgusted. Too bad they survived. That South Vine, I tell ya, bunch of winners there. I hope that if these guys try to retaliate, they don't make it then also.
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Comment #5 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Stay up boys you'll get threw this
Comment Profile ImageCurious
Comment #6 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:12 pm
What are "throwing" comment#5? Or are you illiterate?
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #7 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm
@lee and @re? Seems they were victims, and as such what charges should we file? I suggest that we contact our local assemblyman and cause him to make it a crime to be a documented gang member involved in any criminal activity- even the victim. Or get them for failure to report a crime; unfortunately the ACLU fights for their "right" under freedom of assembly and association. It is a crime that we can have documented gang members free to wander about.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #8 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Who paid for all the emergency services?
Comment Profile ImageSeriously?
Comment #9 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Comment #5. Hey genius, it's THROUGH. Try an education, rather than hanging with trash.
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Comment #10 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I hope they are ok. Never judge until you've been in their shoes.
Comment Profile Imagewaitaminute
Comment #11 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:48 pm
I can't believe all the stupid comments on here! Again, the Sheriffs ALWAYS claim every stabbing victim is gang related WHEN A VICTIM IS STABBED. VICTIM people!! Notice nowhere in here does it mention who THE ATTACKER WAS OR IF THE ATTACKER IS A GANG MEMBER. I would be pretty freaking scared out of my mind if someone stabbed me and 2 other people multiple times!!!! You know YOU ALL WOULD BE SCARED AS HECK TOO IF THAT HAPPENED TO YOU!!

And how did they come to this conclusion the VICTIMS WON"T COOPERATE???!! WTF- HOW CAN 3 STABBING VICTIMS, 2 of which SUSTAINED LIFE THREATENING CRITICAL injuries- EVEN BE COHERENT/ABLE TO TALK, when they were stabbed brutally. They are still in Critical Care!! Are you kidding me people!! That makes zero sense to me, and it should make zero sense to a rational and reasonable person.

Yeah, I would bet all of you talking smack on here, wouldn't be so smug if this happened to you, hello!!! I am SURE NONE OF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COOPERATE/TALK, do anything laid out in Critical Care.

I don't understand all these comments where you are condemning the VICTIM of a brutal crime. Get a clue. That's ridiculous to come to this conclusion. Notice, nowhere in the article do the Sheriff's say, "These men are documented gang members of thus-in-such gang." So in other words, the "ties to the gang", is a crock of hogwash. What the heck does "ties" mean in plain English??!! Nothing, it means the sheriffs DON'T KNOW/SPECULATING based on what evidence so far????

Kind of hard to get "evidence" from someone in Critical Care who's a stabbing victim when the Doctors/Nurses (won't let them in) to talk to someone who has been this severely injured. GET A CLUE!! Doesn't add up people!!!
Comment Profile ImageWaldo
Comment #12 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:03 pm
And our dime is paying for it all.
Comment Profile ImageGIC
Comment #13 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:45 pm
What gang? What are the names? Motive? 5 w's FVN, you know the deal. Good story, but needs details and back story.

VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES: Sheriff's Dept. won't release names.
--D. Ramsey
Comment Profile ImageBrookie
Comment #14 | Thursday, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Give them all a knife....maybe they will get rid of themselves. Less work for the cops. Speaking of which, what is going to be done with these guys? And now, we are going to have to pay for their medical care also.

@ Re???? ..... I disagree with calling. If you see them laying in the street, drag them under some bushes and let them rot! I do agree however that they are a bunch of roaches and their breeding is out of control!
Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #15 | Friday, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:20 am
"Two of the three men sustained critical, life-threatening injuries, but are in stable condition now at an area hospital," - Bummer.

1. the 3 were accosted by rival gang member(s) who came to the Brook looking for a fight.

2. the 3 fought with some of their own gang member(s) over something stupider than being a gang ember in the first place.

3. they accosted the wrong victim at the wrong time.

I like thinking it is #3, but more likely #2 or #1 in that order...
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #16 | Friday, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:25 am
@ comment #5
I hope they get threw it also -- Threw into jail.
Comment Profile Imagebrook
Comment #17 | Friday, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:33 am
How about denying medical attention until they cooperate. Most people would spill their deepest sins to save themselves. There is no honor amongst thieves.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #18 | Friday, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:21 am
There's a reason why criminals get caught and end up in jail: they're idiots.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Fallbrookers, whip out your smartphones and start pressing REC!
Comment Profile Imagejoan
Comment #19 | Friday, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:51 pm
# 8 We taxpaying people paid for the transport. This time they did not say "life flight" was used. Have always raised my pressure " Life Flighted to Palomar (or wherever) "and later released". Again-Taxpayers pay... So to the "gang related stabbings". Why is it everyone knows about Vine St. and it continues to be a area of serious crimes--many not even reported. REALLY??? We can't put an end to this??? Or is it "we WON"T)? Afraid? Whatcha afraid of I ask the "powers that be" Fallbrook-we need to start fighting back for the sake of our town,good kids, loving families, who want more out of life than ruining everyone elses lives for a few $$ or drugs or because they wore a "wrong" color bandana . SO MANY IDIOTS!!

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Comment Profile Image.....
Comment #20 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:13 am
I don't care how i spelled it, you ALL understood me right? I go to school it's called Fallbrook High school. Ahaha...THEY got stabbed. WHAT are they going to charge them with? HA. Get with the program or just simply bounce.
I am glad that these boys are ok..nobody has ever walked in their shoes! you don't know why they about this life so shut your trap
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #21 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:43 am
@waitaminute...
Really? I don't believe the Sheriffs always claims every stabbing victim is gang related. They know who the gang members (and their associates) are and are sick and tired of these thugs running around with knives and guns spinning through the revolving door of justice. We the people want them arrested but don't want to pay the price to lock them up. It's time we start giving law enforcement the support they deserve and stop criticizing them for doing their job. In the long run, keeping criminals off the street will cost much less -- The average voter is just to complacent to see that voting to save money now is where the danger lies. Law Enforcement may not always get it right but they have an extremely difficult and dangerous job and are then constantly criticized by those they are protecting -- What a fine how do you do that is.
Comment Profile Imagewhy judge
Comment #22 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:04 am
Only one can judge and that's God. How would any of you feel if that was one of your loved ones.
Comment Profile Imagewhynodetails
Comment #23 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:56 am
Why does the Village News print articles like this? Notice how there's no details. What gang is involved? Who are the documented gang members? Names?? Pictures?? A Gangmember Database would be helpful. Along with history of crimes, and photos of these "documented gang members" would help. How long they've been documented, immigration status, what were the crimes committed that resulted in them being documented. What is the process for "documenting a gang member." Were the suspects also gangmembers?? If so, who are the suspects?? Photos, etc. info to the public so we know who to look out for.

************VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES - We cannot print information that we are not provided with by the Sheriff's Dept. We do not have the information you are talking about. They will not release it. However, you are evidently misunderstanding the information presented. The altercation was between these 3 individuals - there are no outstanding suspects. They won't cooperate so it is unknown who the "suspects" were and who the "victims" were - it appears that all 3 were both.
Comment Profile ImageDisgusted
Comment #24 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Wow Comment #20, I can see that we are certainly getting our monies worth with your education. Hope you plan on a career at the bottom end of the pay scale. As for Comment #21: I certainly do believe that God is the ultimate judge, however, their stupid actions affect all of us one way or the other. If one of them was my "loved one" I would be upset that they were following a path to perdition and do my darndest to drum some sense into their thick heads. My guess is that their loved ones have too many other kids to worry about to spare them much of their time. Haven't done a very good job as far as I can see.
Comment Profile ImageRyan
Comment #25 | Sunday, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:01 am
To the Fallbrook High Student, you probably should pay a little bit more attention while in English. Your grammar is horrendous. One of the main problems with some of the younger crowds in Fallbrook today is the parents are not raising their children with the mindset of leading an honest life and learning the real meaning of hard work. I've driven through town from time to time, and hear the way some of these kids act. The whole "you don't know how difficult my life is!" crap they slew out is a joke. Everyone has hurdles they must overcome in life, and that's what you do, you overcome them and move on. These kids have the mentality that they can do whatever they want and the parents let them get away with it. Grow up and make your life better if things are so horrible. The resources are there to help you. All these kids walking around doing drugs are nothing but worthless human beings. The ones that run around with gangs deserve everything that happens to them. Saying you don't know what they've been through is a crock. Their deceitful actions are affecting the lives of innocent people, and they should be punished.
Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #26 | Sunday, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:11 am
************VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES - We cannot print information that we are not provided with by the Sheriff's Dept. We do not have the information you are talking about. They will not release it. However, you are evidently misunderstanding the information presented. The altercation was between these 3 individuals - there are no outstanding suspects. They won't cooperate so it is unknown who the "suspects" were and who the "victims" were - it appears that all 3 were both. ......

What the heck? I had to re-read this short article again, because I did not catch that these three were suspects/victims. So it looks like, of the 3 previously posted possibilities, that it is closer to #2 - the 3 fought with some of their own gang member(s) over something stupider than being a gang member in the first place.

I was actually going to take the time to discredit (or at minimum mildly rebut) most of what "waitaminute" posted, but it appear the weather has broken and this would be a great day to get out...


f***VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES (AGAIN)****
You got it, Pessimistic. Thank you. --D. Ramsey
Comment Profile ImageOLD FALLBRROK LOCAL
Comment #27 | Sunday, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:15 am
These young gang members are children of those who broke our nations laws by illegally entering our country in the 80's and 90's. The parents are the "role models".
Comment Profile Imagedude
Comment #28 | Sunday, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm
people who comment on here make me sick all of bunch undercover racist
Comment Profile ImageCheck it out
Comment #29 | Sunday, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Has absolutely nothing to do with racism "dude". There are low lives of all races, colors and creeds. The trailer park isn't that far from the ghetto. There are also more than enough upper middle class losers as well. Stop whining, get a good education and work hard. Join a gang and shorten your life span. You will either die on the streets or you will die in prison. Take your choice.
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #30 | Monday, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:08 am
@Dude -- where do you see racism here? Calling an illegal an illegal is NOT racism.
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #31 | Monday, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:49 am
@dude
What should make you sick is the fact that the People of the United States of America stopped insisting that their Government enforce their National Laws. This has nothing to do with being a racist. Being racist, is something ignorant people have done from the beginning of time and will continue to do until they become educated. If you believe that enforcing our National Law is being racist then you are simply falling for the hoopla stirred up by those that don't understand the difference between racism and living in a Free Nation ruled by Law. A Nation that does not uphold its own law will fail and if that happens, I can assure you you will have more to be sick about than some comments made by prejudice people.
Comment Profile Imagehaha
Comment #32 | Monday, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:56 am
Illegally entering YOUR country lol did you forget your history friendo? Europeans invaded this country illegally, who gave your people naturalization...pshhh GET REAL! And I think its great that's these people are keeping their mouths shut. Its not anyones business..these people know what they are doing.
Comment Profile ImageWTF
Comment #33 | Monday, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:23 pm
@Comment#32: You are another perfect example of someone who slept through history class. As for those guys keeping their mouths shut.... of course they are, if they talk they will end up dead. Bottom feeders one and all.

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