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Medical Examiner says Fallbrook woman killed by dogs; rules death 'accidental;' canines now described as American Bulldogs


Monday, November 12th, 2012
Issue 46, Volume 16.
Debbie Ramsey
Managing Editor


The San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office has reported that an autopsy conducted on a 30-year-old Fallbrook woman found dead Sunday evening, Nov. 11, revealed she was killed by dogs on the property. In the report, it states her cause of death as "accidental" and cites "multiple penetrating, mauling, and blunt force injuries."

Based on evidence at the scene, it appears the single, Hispanic woman, who was housesitting for the owners of the property, may have been trying to break up a fight between some canines now described as "American Bulldogs" when she was fatally injured.

"At the scene, the Medical Examiner thought it looked like she had tried to break up a fight between dogs that were loose on the property when they turned on her," said Sheriff's Detective Dan Laibach.

Laibach said there were a total of eight dogs on the property and that the individual who found the victim was able to put six back in cages, but could not catch two of the canines.

"A garden hose was also found (running) near the victim, so it is thought the woman may have been trying to break up a dogfight with the hose," said Laibach.

Laibach reported that authorities at the scene initially felt it looked like the woman had been bitten in the femoral artery and "bled out."

"After that, it appears that the dogs chewed on her," he added.

Authorities previously said that if the woman's death was attributed to the canines, the case would be turned over to the San Diego County Dept. of Animal Control.

"If the dogs are deemed dangerous, they could be put down," said Laibach, who confirmed that animal control authorities currently have all eight dogs from the property impounded.

The Department of Animal Control will continue the investigation to determine whether or not any criminal charges will be filed against the homeowners.

The woman's remains were discovered by a female family member, authorities said, who placed an emergency call that day about 5:15 p.m. after she went to check on the woman's welfare.

Sheriff's Sgt. Brian Jenkins said that responding deputies had to call in animal control officers to secure the canines.

Authorities said that when deputies checked the residence for any other victims on the date of the incident, they discovered that marijuana was being grown in a rear bedroom.

"The marijuana grow consisted of 24 plants." It was stated that investigators with the Narcotics Task Force were called in to seize the grow operation and they will be handling that investigation.

Laibach said local deputies did respond to a call at the same property in 2010 when it was reported that a canine on the property had bitten a pizza delivery person.

"Other than that, we have not responded to any other complaints at that house," said Laibach.

The full name of the victim has still not been released, but it appears her last name was Romero.

(previous story, Tues., November 13, 2012, 10 a.m.)

Autopsy tentatively scheduled for today on 30-year-old Fallbrook woman

Debbie Ramsey

Managing Editor

The San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office has stated an autopsy will be conducted today (Tues., November 13) on a 30-year-old Fallbrook woman found dead Sunday evening, November 11.

The woman, now described by the Medical Examiner as a single, Hispanic female, was found in the backyard of a property located in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan. A group of approximately eight Old English Bulldogges were in the area where the body was and it appeared the body had been mauled by some of the canines.

"Fire personnel responded and confirmed her death at the scene," the Medical Examiner stated.

The woman's body was found by her cousin, who made the initial emergency call about 5:15 p.m. that day.

It was stated that the woman had been house-sitting for the owner of the property.

Responding deputies had to call in animal control officers to secure the dogs. The canines have since been impounded pending the outcome of the investigation.

The Medical Examiner will determine the cause of the woman's death and whether or not she suffered any other injuries or medical conditions prior to the interaction of the part of the dogs.

The woman's name has not yet been released by authorities.

(previous story, Tues., Nov. 13, 2012, 9 a.m.)

Dogs appear to have mauled body of 30-year-old woman found in Fallbrook backyard

FALLBROOK - An investigation continues into what is now being called "the possible mauling death" of a woman whose bloodied body was found in a North County backyard along with eight large dogs, sheriff's officials reported.

The 30-year-old victim's cousin made an emergency call about 5:15 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 10 to report finding her relative's body while checking on her at the home in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan in Fallbrook, Sgt. Brian Jenkins said.

Deputies had to call animal-control officers to secure a group of dogs, described as "Olde English Bulldogges." running loose in the yard.

The dead woman's injuries were "consistent with dog bites," Sgt. Victor Perry said. He added, however, that a cause-of-death ruling would remain on hold pending autopsy findings.

Given the wounds on the woman's body, further examination will have to determine if the woman suffered any other injuries or medical conditions prior to the interaction of the part of the dogs.

The victim had been housesitting for the owners of the home while they were out of town, according to Jenkins. Her name was withheld pending family notification.

The county Animal Services Department impounded the dogs, agency spokesman Dan DeSousa said.

The decedent was a 30 year-old single Hispanic female resident of Fallbrook. On 11/11/2012, she was found deceased at a home in Fallbrook. Fire personnel responded and confirmed her death at the scene. It appeared that she had been mauled by one or more of the owner's dogs.

Cause of Death/Updated Cause of Death: Multiple penetrating, mauling, and blunt force injuries

Contributing Conditions: None

Manner: Accident

(previous story, Tues., Nov. 13, 2012)

Woman may have been trying to break up dogfight when killed; autopsy to be done today

Debbie Ramsey

Managing Editor

Investigators said today (Tuesday, Nov. 13) that the 30-year old single, Hispanic woman who was discovered dead in the backyard of a Fallbrook home located in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan on Sunday evening, Nov. 11, may have been trying to break up a fight between some canines described as "Olde English Bulldogges" when she was fatally injured.

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the scene, the Medical Examiner thought it looked like she had tried to break up a fight between dogs that were loose on the property when they turned on her," said Sheriff's Detective Dan Laibach.

Laibach said there were a total of eight dogs on the property and that the individual who found the victim was able to put six back in cages, but could not catch two of the canines.

"A garden hose was also found (running) near the victim, so it is thought the woman may have been trying to break up a dogfight with the hose," said Laibach.

Laibach reported that authorities at the scene initially felt it looked like the woman had been bitten in the femoral artery and "bled out."

"After that, it appears that the dogs chewed on her," he added.

Whether or not the dogs were indeed responsible for the woman's death or not will be confirmed by the San Diego County Medical Examiner. An autopsy of the woman's body has been scheduled to take place this week.

"The autopsy will determine whether her death was a result of foul play or by the dogs," said Laibach.

Once the autopsy results are final, the case will be reviewed by the Sheriff's Homicide division, Laibach said.

If foul play is suspected, Homicide investigators will handle the case. If the death is attributable to the canines, the case will be turned over to San Diego County Animal Control.

"If the dogs are deemed dangerous, they could be put down," said Laibach, who confirmed that animal control authorities currently have all eight dogs from the property impounded.

The woman's remains were discovered by her cousin, authorities said, who placed an emergency call that day about 5:15 p.m. after she went to check on the woman's welfare.

Sheriff's Sgt. Brian Jenkins said that responding deputies had to call in animal control officers to secure the canines.

Laibach said local deputies did respond to a call at the same property in 2010 when it was reported that a canine on the property had bitten a pizza delivery person.

"Other than that, we have not responded to any other complaints at that house," said Laibach.

Jenkins said that authorities were told the victim had been house-sitting for the owners of the home while they were out of town.

"The woman worked doing house cleaning and house sitting for people," said Laibach.

The full name of the victim had not been released as of press time, but it was confirmed her last name was Romero and she was a resident of Fallbrook.

Watch this website for updates to this case as they become available.

(previous story, Tues., November 13, 2012, 10 a.m.)

Autopsy tentatively scheduled for today on 30-year-old Fallbrook woman

Debbie Ramsey

Managing Editor

The San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office has stated an autopsy will be conducted today (Tues., November 13) on a 30-year-old Fallbrook woman found dead Sunday evening, November 11.

The woman, now described by the Medical Examiner as a single, Hispanic female, was found in the backyard of a property located in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan. A group of approximately eight Old English Bulldogges were in the area where the body was and it appeared the body had been mauled by some of the canines.

"Fire personnel responded and confirmed her death at the scene," the Medical Examiner stated.

The woman's body was found by her cousin, who made the initial emergency call about 5:15 p.m. that day.

It was stated that the woman had been house-sitting for the owner of the property.

Responding deputies had to call in animal control officers to secure the dogs. The canines have since been impounded pending the outcome of the investigation.

The Medical Examiner will determine the cause of the woman's death and whether or not she suffered any other injuries or medical conditions prior to the interaction of the part of the dogs.

The woman's name has not yet been released by authorities.

(previous story, Tues., Nov. 13, 2012, 9 a.m.)

Dogs appear to have mauled body of 30-year-old woman found in Fallbrook backyard

FALLBROOK - An investigation continues into what is now being called "the possible mauling death" of a woman whose bloodied body was found in a North County backyard along with eight large dogs, sheriff's officials reported.

The 30-year-old victim's cousin made an emergency call about 5:15 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 10 to report finding her relative's body while checking on her at the home in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan in Fallbrook, Sgt. Brian Jenkins said.

Deputies had to call animal-control officers to secure a group of dogs, described as "Olde English Bulldogges." running loose in the yard.

The dead woman's injuries were "consistent with dog bites," Sgt. Victor Perry said. He added, however, that a cause-of-death ruling would remain on hold pending autopsy findings.

Given the wounds on the woman's body, further examination will have to determine if the woman suffered any other injuries or medical conditions prior to the interaction of the part of the dogs.

The victim had been housesitting for the owners of the home while they were out of town, according to Jenkins. Her name was withheld pending family notification.

The county Animal Services Department impounded the dogs, agency spokesman Dan DeSousa said.

(previous story, Mon., Nov. 11, 2012, 8:30 a.m.)

Body of 30-year-old woman found in Fallbrook backyard; investigation underway

FALLBROOK - An investigation is underway today into the death of a 30-year-old woman whose body was found in the backyard of a Fallbrook home along with several large dogs who had to be rounded up by animal control, authorities said.

Deputies were called to the home in the 1300 block of Calle Tecolotan just before 5:15 p.m. Sunday, according to San Diego County sheriff's Sgt. Brian Jenkins.

A woman who identified herself as the victim's cousin said she went to the home to check on her relative's welfare and found the body, the sergeant said in a statement.

When deputies arrived, they had to call animal control officers to secure several large dogs running loose in the backyard, Jenkins said.

The county coroner's office also was called to the home, according to Jenkins.

The woman was house-sitting for the homeowners, who were out of town, he said.

Her name and city of residence were not immediately released.

The official cause of death and nature of death were under investigation.


 

69 comments

Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #1 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:57 am
R.I.P.
Comment Profile ImageVet and Citizen
Comment #2 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Any update on this incident?? However this young lady passed, I hope that it went quick and that her loved ones know that she is in a better place. God Bless.

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VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES: We are trying to get more information on this case/investigation and will continue to do so. Due to the Veteran's Day holiday, communications with the Sheriff's Dept. are a little challenging today. Thank you for reading. We will post any updates as we can secure them. ----Debbie Ramsey
Comment Profile ImageFamily Friend
Comment #3 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Mauled is such a horrid word. This young lady helped raise these dogs from birth. The incident is still under investigation and as such should be treated with respect and care. An official cause of death has not been released yet so please be mindful of your words. The family is taking this pretty hard and seeing such things online only makes things worse. While we encourage you to keep posting updates, please be mindful of your choice of words.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #4 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:07 pm
What would be a better word to use in connection with this? Would it be better to just say she was killed by the dogs?
Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #5 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm
This is such a sad story. I hope you all can feel peace again someday.
* This is very hard from every angle. The dogs were protecting the home from an intruder. (In their eyes.)
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Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #6 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm
I did think there was a 6 dog limit per household law. I can see that 8 large dogs could get carried away as a group. I have two dogs, it's easy for them to forget that I'm the boss.
Comment Profile ImageMargo
Comment #7 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:33 pm
@#3 Family Friend: "Mauled" is a horrid word--an accurate and appropriate word for a gruesome and horrible death.

While is does paint a ghastly picture in the mind of the reader, I think that describing the tragedy in vague language and euphemism would disservice the victim by minimizing the suffering she experienced.

Nobody should die this way. My condolences to her family and friends.
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #8 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm
SAW THE CHANNEL 10 NEWS VAN EARLIER TODAY IN FRONT OF THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION...'MAULED' IS THE WORD THE ARE USING IN THE NEWS.....I KNOW IT IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION...BUT IF DOG 'BITES' WERE FOUND IN HER BODY, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPER WORD TO USE THEN? EITHER/OR....MAY SHE REST IN PEACE!!!
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #9 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Wow!!!:(
Comment Profile Image11 year Fallbrook homeowner
Comment #10 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:09 pm
This is a sad story on many levels. My sympathy to the family. Now we just wait for a cause of death and to learn the fate of the dogs.
Comment Profile Imageunweight8
Comment #11 | Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Family friend is obviouly a knucklehead. Mauled is a terrible word which is directly applicable is this situation. Man or woman up!
Comment Profile ImageFallbrookian
Comment #12 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:13 am
I think everyone needs to let the investigation move forward before they make a judgment. Perhaps the word "mauled" will not be correct as a cause for her death. Did she trip and fall, perhaps hitting her head? Did she have a heart attack, a stroke, a seizure? Who knows, none of us were there. It was most like an attack by the dogs, but it could have been opportunistic biting that took place after her death from some other cause. Give the medical examiner time to figure it out. Just pray for her family because no matter what, it is a horrific tragedy to lose someone who is so young.
Comment Profile Imagelocal
Comment #13 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:53 am
Pretty sure that what "Family Friend" was getting at was that the cause of death has not been determined. Dogs left alone with no food for several days could easily account for the state of the body. That doesn't mean the dogs killed her. It sounds like these poor people have lost 9 family members at the moment. I pray it was something swift and natural and that these people get some of their family back.
Comment Profile ImagePreferRealities
Comment #14 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:23 am
You can tell Family Friend is a true pit lover. Knows d,,,, well that there's a burden of guilt on the pit-type-dog owners, on the woman's family, and on the woman herself. Might be worried that the victim's family is going to draw the just conclusion that this whole genetic family of dogs is inherently dangerous. Doesn't realize s/he's acknowledging 'don't matter if you raise them from pup, they still might suddenly kill you.' Is glad the dog type is being obfuscated by inventing yet another paper breed name...and now drunk on that success wants to censor the naming of what these monsters in fact do. Thinks s/he can dictate no more mentioning mauling, maiming, dismembering and killing, we all have to call it 'dog bites'. After all, it's making that distinction that is getting these pit fans into so much trouble when they try to use 'dog bite' statistics.

To make it even more appalling, this self-serving message and complete indifference to protecting human life is disguised as concern for relatives of the woman who died. Really the only goal here is to make sure this doesn't get counted as pit bull type dog attack, or even as an attack at all.

In fact, the only way we are going to stop this kind of tragedy happening is to acknowledge what Family Friend says: There is a type of dog that suddenly kills, no matter that you were a loving participant in raising them. Only by acknowledging this fact can we protect ourselves...and could this young woman have protected herself.
Comment Profile ImagePreston
Comment #15 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:12 am
PreferRealities,
I have often said that with all the great dog breeds to choose from we need to do a better job of educating potential owners about this breed and work diligently to keep them from becoming family pets.
Obviously I agree with your opinion about Pits however in this case I believe it would be best to wait for the results of the investigation before coming to a conclusion.
Comment Profile ImagePeace
Comment #16 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:51 am
@PreferRealities.....Did you not read the article????? The dogs were Old English bulldogs. Where did you get "pitbull"? This is a horrific tragedy for everyone in that family. They surely don't need any uneducated breed haters like you, using this as a inlet to spout off your ignorant "hater" comments! Peace and prayers for this family!
Comment Profile ImageFamily Friend
Comment #17 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:52 am
Thank you "Fallbrookian" and "local" for understanding what I meant. For everyone else, thanks for being rude and attacking me while I am mourning. No I am not trying to justify the dogs, I don't even like dogs, I am family of the woman who died, not the owner of the house and dogs! The ME has not released a cause of death therefore its not right to just assume the dogs did it. No one here is aware of her condition when she was found and are not medical examiners with expert knowledge. Please be respectful with your comments. You don't have all the facts, and you don't know everything that happened prior, during or after this situation.
Comment Profile Imagesunshine
Comment #18 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:53 am
I wonder what the reason was for having eight dogs. Apparently they weren't socialized.
Comment Profile ImageTaylor
Comment #19 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:58 am
WOW! and for once this time it wasn't Pits who were blamed
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #20 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:10 am
to perferrealities - Ole English Bulldog is not a "paper breed" name; it is a seperate breed from the pit all togehter. Think the Marine Corps mascot or the English mascot - that is the english bulldog.
Comment Profile ImageBulldogge Description
Comment #21 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The Olde English Bulldogge is a very new and rare breed developed by David Leavitt through the crossing half English Bulldog, and the other half: Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog.
Comment Profile ImageMolly M
Comment #22 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm
To Family Friend - You took the words right out of my mouth with comment #17. I wish you peace in this frantic time of your mourning.
Comment Profile ImageMyView
Comment #23 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:36 pm
I agree with Fallbrookian's approach (comment #12). Who really knows what happened, but irregardless it is a tragedy & terrible loss for this woman's family.

I think that there's some confusion about the breed of the dogs involved. English Bulldog is a different breed than Olde English Bulldogge. I believe that the Old English Bulldogge was created through the breeding of English Bulldog, American Bulldog, Mastiff and American Pit Bull Terrier. I may be wrong.
Comment Profile Imageraven
Comment #24 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Stop spewing ignorant myths about pitts, this is why we have BSL (Breed-specific legislation) placed upon these dogs due to knuckle dragging myths that create unjust laws. They were NOT pitts, and YOU weren't there to witness what played out on the unfortunate day. Pit Bull Myths and Facts http://www.tree.com/lifestyle/pit-bull-myths-and-facts.aspx
Comment Profile ImageGird Resident
Comment #25 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm
So Sad... I feel for the family that lost there daughter, sister, cousin. I feel for the Owners of the Dogs Im sure they didnt see this coming or they wouldn't have had such a large number of dogs. As far as the ignorant comments about pit bulls It has no merit. Any Pack of dogs regardless of breed has the potential to use a Pack mentality and Injure or kill. Olde English if that is indeed what they truely are, Are indeed a MUTT... There is no need to throw around the word Pit. I believe you mean to say a "Bully" breed. I have worked in the Animal Medical field for 10 years and I would trust myself more with a Pit then a Dachshund or a Chihuahua. Any animal is capable of Killing Its there power that determines how much damage is truely done and how many of them there are. What a sad story...
Comment Profile ImageWendy
Comment #26 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Olde English Bulldogs simply can not get a bite sufficient to kill a person, even if there were 100 of them. They can hardly walk and breath because of their severe brachiocephalic facial conformation, let alone engage in the level of exertion needed to kill a human.
The dogs are involved "pit bulls" or one of the non herding molosser types. The "bulldog" description denotes pit bull though because of the size it suggests.
Ever wonder why the likes of Vick or owers who keep them as boar hunting dogs never get mauled?? BECAUSE THEY DO TREAT THEM LIKE PETS OR ALLOW THEM TO INTERECT WITH HUMANS AS PETS. The breed should have the same ownership restriction as that of a baboon, hyena or grizzly.

http://www.wickedhype.com/videos/details/14112/Pitbulls-Viciously-Attack-Neighbors-Innocent-Dog-Thru-Fence-Tears-Leg-Off-Eats-It-Warning-Graphic-Footage
Comment Profile Image@ Gird
Comment #27 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I don't know about you, but I trust myself more with a chihuahua then a pit.
Comment Profile ImageMountain Mama
Comment #28 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I totally agree @Gird: I do NOT want to own an animal that can kill me!
Comment Profile ImageTrixie
Comment #29 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Wendy, You need to do a little research. You are thinking of an English Bulldog. Short,squat and not much ambition. Try looking up this breed. It is not a Pit even though Pit may have been included in the genetic make up.
Comment Profile Imagemomz
Comment #30 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I agree with GIRD !!! Any breed of dog in a pack mentality can be dangerous. People these are animals not humans, you have no idea what animals can do when they are triggered. I have grown up with only Pit Bulls and not one of them were a danger to me or my family or friends EVER. It's the media that has only concertrated on Pit Bull attacks I have seen many type of DOG breed attacks and SURPRISE they were not all PIT BULLs.
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook 1974
Comment #31 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Sad and Weird. I'm still betting they were pitbulls.
Comment Profile Imageary
Comment #32 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:17 pm
My name is Ary from One of a Kind Bulldogs, a local breeder and ONLY nationwide rescue and rescue network. We are writing this to clear up MANY misleading statements made by all the stations.
1. These dogs are NOT Olde English Bulldogges, They are NOT English Bulldogs either!!!
2. These are American Bulldog mixes bred by a very irresponsible backyard breeder.
3. Fox news has stated that the dogs mauled a woman, THIS HAS NOT BEEN FULLY CONCLUDED!
4. We have personally helped re-home dogs from this breeder due to his lack of irresponsibility. So, we have personally witnessed that they ARE NOT olde english bulldogges.
So, all in all, the Olde English Bulldogge and English Bulldogs are NOT an aggressive breed to be mislabeled and misrepresented by a backyard breeder breeding American Bulldog MIXES irresponsibly and without proper care.
Please research the breed and see for yourself the amazing temperment these bulldogges have. www.bulldoggerescues.com www.oneofakindbulldogs.com
Comment Profile Imagejohn
Comment #33 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:02 pm
to comment number 26 some olde english bullogge get upward of 100lbs an could be very dangerous if not well socialized
Comment Profile ImageIndependent
Comment #34 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:06 pm
A person has left this world & all you can do is argue as to whether or not the dogs had "any trace of pit bull" in them? It does not matter what the pet, breed, etc. it's a tragic thing. If people have Hitlers bloodline, should they be put down too? Any pet is only as good as their owner, don't jump to silly conclusions, none of you were there! I respectfully apologize to the family & loved ones of this young lady & do hope these negative comments are removed to help you move forward with your mourning.
Comment Profile Image@ Wendy
Comment #35 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I think you are thinking of an English Bulldog, the Olde English Bulldogge is completely different, google it
Comment Profile ImageLatenight Teacher
Comment #36 | Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I am praying for peace and comfort for her family and friends. I will miss her smiles as she cleaned around me!
Comment Profile ImageSnowflake
Comment #37 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:26 am
They should send Larry Jaurequi over there, he is excelent at taking care of these kind of problems with dogs.
Comment Profile Imagegrunt
Comment #38 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:12 am
to perfer realites:- I stand corrected, I thought it was the normal English bulldog, not the apparent mixed breed many of you have stated. I will now back out of the conversation.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #39 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:02 am
Perhaps a backyard breeding operation, with that many animals in one place.
Comment Profile Imagemomz
Comment #40 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I do agree with Independent... Someone has lost there life due to what ever conclusion. I pray for the family and friends of this young lady. May God protect and guide you through this time. Prayers and comfort. Sorry for your loss.
Comment Profile ImageBrookie
Comment #41 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The cops also found 24 pot plants in one of the bedrooms. The owners also were breeding the dogs to make them bigger! Where are the owners??? Are they back from their trip? Have they been interviewed? Do they have anything to say??? Sure hope they get the book thrown at them!
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #42 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Per 760 KFMB: Dozens of pot were also found. Maybe the dogs had a medical marijuana card authorized by some vet in town.

Things like this make life amusing.
Comment Profile ImageBirdie
Comment #43 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I just want to say that yes this was a horrific tragedy...but mauled is the proper word for the cause of death.. When dogs do this kind of damage it is a "mauling". And these dogs are found to be "AMERICAN BULLDOGS" which are a mix and relatives of mastiffs, bull dogs, and other breeds. ALL DOGS BITE!! ANYTHING THAT HAS TEETH HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BITE!! No matter the breed. When you get numerous dogs together they have pack mentality...even chihuahuas, granted the bigger breeds can inflict more damage, but I have seen chihuahuas and small terriers bite off lips and cause large lacerations, and cause significant damage. Dogs will be dogs and people still have to remember that they are still animals and need to respect that. Even if the dogs did know the victim, if there was a dog fight nevertheless, dogs will, can, and have what's called REDIRECTED on the woman. Maybe not intentionally, but with that many dogs it is hard to control the situation. They are strong powerful dogs some of them even weighing over 100#. But when you have un-neutered males, un spayed females, and puppies...they are bound to fight, be un socialized and protect what is theirs.My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
Comment Profile ImageKulMom
Comment #44 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@Ary, thank you. As the owner of an English Bulldog myself I am glad you validated the fact that the dogs involved with this story were NOT English Bulldogs. I feel for the family who lost their loved one.
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #45 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Cause of death: "accidental" and cites "multiple penetrating, mauling, and blunt force injuries." The woman bled out and after that.. the canines chewed on her. And there's still arguments about the breed of animal?? They are still trying to determine if the animals need to be euthonized?? Unconceivable!! All my prayers go out to this woman's family. May she rest in peace.

(Now about the marijuana...well that's another story all in itself).
Comment Profile ImageFamily Friend
Comment #46 | Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Words cannot describe how an angels fire/ From brightest day to darkest night burn out/ You lit up the world with a smile that was always beaming/ You may now be forever lost but surely NEVER forgotten. RIP Friend.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #47 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:05 am
Why no names given yet?

Her relatives have been notified long ago. That's not the reason.

Why are the home owners not identified also?

When might the Village News have that information?

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VILLAGE NEWS REPLIES: We have been trying to get that information. As soon as we are successful in getting it from the authorities overseeing this case, we will publish it. Thank you for reading. ---Debbie Ramsey
Comment Profile ImageFamily Friend
Comment #48 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:04 am
To anyone wishing to make donations to the family to help lay her to rest there will be a small donation box at Estrellas restaurant in Fallbrook next to the Fallbrook Froyo. Thank you all for your love and prayers during this difficult time in our lives.
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Comment Profile ImageFamily Friend
Comment #49 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:20 am
Her name was Remedios Romero. May she rest in peace. 'Till we meet again my friend.
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #50 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:53 am
I will make sure I do donate....you might consider putting more boxes around town...tragic, tragic story.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #51 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Maybe the owner of the dogs should pay for her funeral.
Comment Profile Image@resident
Comment #52 | Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Sounds harsh, but I agree.
Comment Profile Imagefamily friend
Comment #53 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:50 am
to the people that are saying or spreading negative comments please stop and think about the pain of this family... there's more to this story for example they are trying to get this poor women send back to her country so guess what... the most helpful thing to do now is to possibly help with money because is expensive and the family come from a humble and poor town in mexico please if you guys really wanna help and be kind to others try to help out this family so if you know anyone close to the family please reach out to them and help out in any way u can... and sunshine i know who you are so don't be looking for new things k babe...
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #54 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:06 am
Have the Catholic church help. They like to help people here illegally.
Comment Profile ImageZach Garvin
Comment #55 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:55 am
Man that sucks, I bet they were pit bulls even though they said they were American bull dogs. It's just sad, anyway why would a person want to be around 8 untamed dogs. If i was the person i would of have shot the dogs to death, But since it was a 30 year old woman, She was probably helpless.
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #56 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RESIDENT: COMMENT #54
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT TO US THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HELPS ILLEGALS....ARE YOU INSINUATING THAT THE REST OF THE CHURCHES ACCEPT YOU ONLY IF YOU ARE LEGAL/CITIZEN???? THAT WHAT THEY PREACH ABOUT IS NOT RELIGION OR GOD, BUT THEIR PRIORITY IS TO VERIFY ITS FOLLOWERS LEGAL STATUS???? SO, I GUESS THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ACCORDING TO YOU, IS DOING WHAT JESUS CHRIST CAME TO THIS WORLD TO DO...TRY TO SAVE US, NO MATTER IF WE ARE WHITE, BLACK OR BROWN..AND ALL THE COLORS IN BETWEEN. (WHEN I WAS COLD, YOU CLOTHED ME....WHEN I WAS HUNGRY, YOU FED ME), DON'T RECALL SAYING: "WHEN I WAS ILLEGAL AND I PASSED AWAY, I WAS FED TO THE DOGS" (NO DISRESPECT TO THE VICTIM OR HER FAMILY, JUST TRYING TO PROVE A POINT HERE).
SORRY RESIDENT, BUT I WAS NOT AMUSED AT ALL BY YOUR COMMENT, MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU!!!
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #57 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I don't read all cap rants, so I have no idea what you said.

Goodluck, IBAM.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #58 | Friday, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:09 pm
why does the story change from the top to the bottom?
at first it says locked away 6 dogs but couldnt get the other 2 but then it says she was found with 8.?
and also that they say they couldnt identify her and didnt know if there was relatives but then it says her cousin found her.
its very confusing.
Comment Profile ImageTRUTH EXISTS
Comment #59 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:18 am
Where in fallbrook was this incident? Does anyone have a C L U E ?
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #60 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm
IBam: Who cares what filth the money came from as long as the collection plates are full.
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Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #61 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm
IBAM: You really need to do your research on the catholic church, might switch and become a baptist. As I have stated for years, the catholic church is holding back the hispanic community
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #62 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RESIDENT: COMMENT #57
EXACTLY!!
Comment Profile ImageTRUTH EXISTS
Comment #63 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Does anyone have the address? I
Comment Profile Imageignorant resident
Comment #64 | Saturday, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Hope you never need help from Catholics. Hope they'd leave you to rot.
Comment Profile ImageRoute 66
Comment #65 | Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Residents ...knew...so...etc., sorry for grammatical errors. Hey AutoCorrect can be a bbbiiiiiaaaatttccchh...on an iPod! I'm making a point, not writing a Mr.Reymond essay for grading. You get the gist - build a bridge n get Over it! LOL
Comment Profile Image@ignorant resident
Comment #66 | Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:37 am
Nice Catholic attitude. :)
Comment Profile Imageary
Comment #67 | Saturday, Dec 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I know who owns these EEE giant bulldogs. I am sick of them being protected. These people took poor care of their dogs, bred poorly and let their dogs kill someone. I have even heard from an old breeding this guy's training methods include beating his dogs! for the sake of the victim these people should be tried in court!!!
Its a shame it has been this long and NOT ONE PERSON of authority has called me even though i have left countless messages for detectives. Animal control knows my info and does not call me. Based on what i know these breeders are 100% liable and this was definately inevitable the way the dogs were raised.
I pray for the family and their loss, i hope justice is served for them. And i also agree that funeral services should be paid for by this man's family.
-I am speaking out because I have met him and I know how his dogs are NOT olde english Bulldogges (and breed is irrelevent, whats relevent is how the dogs were raised.) He wanted to use dogs in our program and a friends of mine and we refused him. in retaliation he began spreading lies about One of a Kind Bulldogs. He is the definition of an irresponsible backyard breeder with no morals or ethics.
It is sad that an innocent woman died because of him and also that all 8 dogs will most likely be euthanized.
I also run a rescue and have offered to assess all the dogs and help re-home any that i can, but animal control has never called me back even though i also have crucial info to the case.
Comment Profile ImageReb
Comment #68 | Wednesday, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:27 pm
A pit bull by any other name is still a pit bull and will still MAUL somebody to death.
Comment Profile ImageT
Comment #69 | Wednesday, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:18 pm
The American Bulldog is now classified as a pit bull. My town bans them along with the rest of the pit types. Thank goodness.

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