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Three vehicle collision on Reche Road near Potter Jr. High sends five to hospital


Wednesday, October 31st, 2012
Issue 44, Volume 16.


FALLBROOK - A three vehicle collision that occurred at 2:05 p.m. today (Wed., Oct. 31) on Reche Road near Calmin Drive, sent five people to a local hospital with non life-threatening injuries, authorities said.

Officer Jim Bettencourt of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) described the accident as complex and said an investigation is underway to determine the prevailing cause.

Bettencourt described the chain of events in the accident as follows.

A 74-year-old Fallbrook woman was driving a 1999 Toyota 4Runner westbound on Reche Road and began to make a left-hand turn onto Calmin Drive. She had a 13-year-old boy as a passenger.

According to Officer Bettencourt, at the same time, a 20-year-old Fallbrook man was traveling at a high rate of speed eastbound on Reche Road in a 2005 Acura TSX.

"The 74-year-old woman said she didn't see the Acura," said Bettencourt.

When the Acura struck the Toyota 4Runner, it spun the Toyota around. The Acura then continued through the area of the collision traveling eastbound on Reche Road and collided into a 2000 Ford Windstar van that was traveling westbound on Reche Road. The van was being driven by a Fallbrook woman who had three children in the vehicle with her.

The 20-year-old driver of the Acura had a 24-year-old female and a 17-year-old female as passengers in his vehicle.

According to the young man and his passengers in the Acura, they were not speeding and the 74-year-old woman in the 4Runner was not heading west on Reche initially, but coming out of Calmin, turning onto Reche westbound. The driver and front passenger in the Acura claim that a witness who was following the van and saw the entire accident corroborates their story.

The front seat passenger in the Acura said, "We saw her coming out of Calmin. She didn’t even start to come out onto Reche until we were at the top of the hill. Then she pulled out in front of us. She didn't Advertisement
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see us because she did not look our way. The woman sped into us."

According to the young man driving the Acura, he had to veer to the left to avoid her and she struck his front passenger tire, which pushed him into oncoming traffic and the van with the woman and the three kids.

The individuals transported to the hospital for treatment included the 17-year-old passenger in the Acura, and the woman driving the Windstar van as well as her three children passengers.

Bettencourt said the children were taken to the hospital "as a precautionary measure."

Given the complexity of the incident, Bettencourt said he is unsure what the final determination of cause will be relating to the crash, given two factors exist - one vehicle turning in front of another and one vehicle doing a high rate of speed.

"It's too early to speculate on that," he said.

The names of those involved in the crash have not been released at this time.

(previous story, Wed., Oct. 31, 2012, 3:15 p.m.)

Three vehicle collisions occurs on Reche Road near Potter Jr. High School

Debbie Ramsey

Managing Editor

A three vehicle collision occurred at approximately 2:05 p.m. today (Wed., Oct. 31) on Reche Road near Calmin Drive. The California Highway Patrol has described aspects of the crash as a head-on collision, and noted that as many as four people may have been injured.

Some of those injured have been transported to Fallbrook Hospital.

A witness at the scene said reportedly a vehicle was traveling eastbound on Reche Road, approaching the Calmin Drive intersection when a vehicle pulled out of Calmin and into traffic. The eastbound vehicle then veered left into the other lane to avoid hitting the other vehicle and came into contact with a third vehicle that was traveling westbound on Reche Road.

No further information is available from authorities at this time. Watch this site for updates as more information is received.


 

25 comments

Comment Profile ImageCory
Comment #1 | Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:27 pm
News 8 Helicopter orbiting
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook mom
Comment #2 | Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Well, it was just a matter of time before this happened. It is good to hear there were no life threatening injuries. Everyone just needs to slow down on Reche when school is out. I can't tell you how many cars don't want to wait in a line so they jump into the turning lane towards oncoming cars trying to legally make their left turns and they are driving well over 25 mph. I dont understand why pile ons aren't place there to prevent this. Cars and school buses, who should know better, pull out right in front of you like your invisible. They seem to have no idea or concept that when they do cut people off they are taking others right away on the road and causing people to slam on their brakes which can cause people to get rear ended. I beg all those who drive by any of the schools, slow down, be aware of kids running out in the road and be patient. Where ever your going doesn't out weigh more than your life or anybody elses.
Comment Profile ImageMe
Comment #3 | Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:32 pm
pile ons?
Comment Profile ImageReche rd resident
Comment #4 | Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:57 pm
People please SLOW DOWN!!! There are 2 schools on Reche Rd and everyone knows traffic before and after school is crazy so take another route or simply be prepared to wait.
Comment Profile ImageJM
Comment #5 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:47 am
Fallbrook mom-Please read the article before complaining about it. No speeding involved. "It was only a matter of time" before an elder person causes an accident is probably what you meant. It was an elderly person who probably shouldn't be driving still. I witness them everywhere especially around church alley. If you are an elderly please be respectful and be aware of your ability to drive.

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VILLAGE NEWS NOTE: JM - In the story, the reporting CHP officer said the 20-year-old driving the Acura was traveling "at a high rate of speed."
Thank you. D. Ramsey, editor.

Comment Profile ImageFallbrook mom
Comment #6 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:48 am
@me, they might not be called pile ons, I've just heard people call them that before. They are barriers set up to block drivers from going into lanes or at construction sites to block lanes. Even just the orange plastic columns could be used to stop drivers from flying down turning lanes like it's another driving lane. I believe you can only drive 250 ft in a turning lane and I have seen hundreds of people driving 2 blocks in the turning lane to get around lines trying to get in parking lots. They don't realize if they would wait in line people could exit the parking lots and the line on Reche trying to get in the schools wouldn't be so long. Sadly Fallbrook schools just weren't designed to handle the amount of traffic they have now nor is our little town.
Comment Profile ImageMolly M
Comment #7 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:10 am
Off subject just a bit: Is there any way that our local policing agencies could patrol the high school at the time when school is out? Cars are lined up in the red zone waiting to pick up their children while traffic backs up and/or crosses into oncoming traffic to get around them. There must be an alternate area to wait for their children.
Comment Profile ImagePotter Mom
Comment #8 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:04 am
I was picking up my child from Potter and saw the accident happen. So many kids walk home from Potter. There had to be at least 15 kids on the side walk when the accident occurred. What if someone was killed or a child was hit? Is it really so hard to dive 25 MPH for less than 1/2 of a mile? Is where your going that important? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE slow down. This is a SCHOOL ZONE!
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook Mom
Comment #9 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@JM...not off subject. Reche Road is dangerous when the two schools let out for so many reasons. I was picking up my kid when the accident happened. My point is it was only a matter of time before a major accident occurred in this area because of all the illegal things drivers do on that road during high traffic times and yes that includes an elderly person pulling out in front of someone either because she was in a hurry or didn't look well enough to see another vehicle coming or maybe she was overwhelmed by all the traffic driving by and made an 'error in judgement'. That road is like running an obstacle during pickup/drop off hours of the schools, all I said was if people just slow down and understand how traffic flows and traffic laws that road would be a little more safer to travel on. I wasn't complaining about the article, and thank you village news for restating the driver was driving at a high rate of speed.
Comment Profile ImagePotter Mom
Comment #10 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Another problem is that SO MANY parent actually drop their kids off IN THE STREET on Reche. I see it everyday! Parents don't want to wait in the lines in the school parking lot so they just stop right there on Reche and let their kids out. Many other kids jaywalk accross Reche. Calmin Drive is a private road but parent pick up and drop off kids there too. They are not supposed to do that. I see many people speeding up Reche at all hours of the day and they do use the turn lanes to get around other cars because they are too impatient to wait. There needs to be more enforcement in front of the schools. There needs to be another crosswalk in front of Potter and there needs to be something to help deter speeding on Reche. Thank God no one was killed!
Comment Profile ImagePotter Parent
Comment #11 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@JM....Lets have Drivers Ed 101. Speed limits are set by looking at several different factors, one of which is ROAD CONDITIONS. IE hills, curves, blind intersections...etc. The idea is if someone comes out of a blind intersection (due to them not being able to see) the other driver will have time to stop!!!! I know it's shocking someone was smart enough to figure that out huh...JM!!! And since I was about 6 cars behind the accident...there was NO WAY that car could do that much damage and end up where it did if he wasn't speeding!!!! Just wanted to make sure no child was left behind JM....
Comment Profile Image"A" waiting to happen
Comment #12 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:50 pm
This is just typical of Fallbrook drivers (of all ages) who just HAVE to whip out in front of you at the very last second, causing anyone (even those not speeding) to have to slam on the brakes. It's especially bad on roads like Reche, Alvarado, and Main.
Comment Profile ImageB.E
Comment #13 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I saw them crash it was very loud and i thought that know was hurt a lady came out with blood on her face.
Comment Profile Image3 year home owner in Fallbrook.
Comment #14 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Pylons, plastic cones, I understood you Fallbrook mom. There were more important things on your mind the proper spelling at the time. (I googled it to be sure.) I say, Speed bump the whole town, I know, I know it can't be done.
Comment Profile ImagePeter
Comment #15 | Thursday, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Potter Parent, a car would not need to be going fast in order to do the damage that was done. Consider what happens when a car is going 25 miles per hour and another car pulls out in front of it, hits the front passenger side and PUSHES the car into the oncoming traffic. That's how it happens without one car going at a "high rate of speed"
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook Mom
Comment #16 | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:54 am
@3 year home owner in Fallbrook...thank you. I knew it was something like that, lol. It coud definately make a difference, and I agree with the speed bumps.
Comment Profile ImagePink
Comment #17 | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:41 am
According to the VN and the CHP it was the fault of a "speeding" 20 year old. That was hardly a senior citizen JM.
Comment Profile ImageJM
Comment #18 | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Village News- Thank you for the Fact Check, providing me with appropriate information

Potter Parent-I drive Reche coming from Live Oak and have hit school traffic depending on when I leave. Heck yes people speed, and rarely am i following someones thats only going 25MPH on that stretch. Its flat with no hills nor blind intersections and is 25 for protection of kids on the sidewalks, so you can stop in time before coming in contact with someones child not for the reasons you attempted to explain. I learned that in Drivers Ed 101. Also I trust your ability to be a parent to a Potter attending student but that doesn't give you extensive knowledge in road rules, car damage, or speed estimating.

However despite all this, I completely agree with the changes needed on that road during drop off/pickup hours but speed is not the problem, FALLBROOK MOM, you're right it's people recklessly pulling out in front of people and abuse of the middle lane. Combine that with speed and your risk the accident taking place outside of the streets lanes. I regret my post earlier because I was unaware it was during school dropoff hours. Although elder drivers is a problem it's minimal when compared to dealing with danger to parents children. If someone has a petition asking for traffic lights, or police orientating traffic, Id be glad to sign up.
Comment Profile ImageFallbook mom
Comment #19 | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:33 pm
JM, hope you didn't think I was being rude, sometimes I get a little emotionally when it comes to these things. I would love to find a way to fix the problems too...just have no idea who to talk to about it being Fallbrook is county not considered a city. I've been told surveys have to be done on roads to determine if lights/crosswalks/speed changes are needed, which cost money that the state and county don't have. That's why I beg the citizens of Fallbook everytime something like this happens to educate themselves on the laws and be patient. There are a lot of problem areas in Fallbrook, not just the schools, wish there was an easier way of correcting these issues.
Comment Profile ImageBrookie
Comment #20 | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Traffic on Reche has always been a problem. When I see a cop car, everyone behaves! We have the honor of having a Senior Volunteer Patrol program and what better place for them to be before and after school. We are talking about 1 hour per day!
Comment Profile ImageMolly M
Comment #21 | Saturday, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:07 pm
To #20: Great idea. How about posting a Senior Volunteer Patrol car at both the Reche school areas and at the high school. That should cut down on some/all of the violations.
Comment Profile ImageRanch wood resident
Comment #22 | Saturday, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm
And school traffic needs to stop going through calman and ranchwood. It's a private road and everyone is destroying it. The city does not maintain it. The residents do
Comment Profile Imagesome guy
Comment #23 | Monday, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:48 am
How is it possible to drive at a high rate of speed when there are cars every where. None of you people make sense.
Comment Continued : The comment above was written from the same location.
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Comment Profile Imagefallbrook resident
Comment #24 | Monday, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:55 am
I'm pretty sure that you would have a hard time judging what was going on from 6 cars away Potter Parent. Especially when everything happens in a split second.
Comment Profile Imagex fallbrook resident
Comment #25 | Monday, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:10 am
POLICE PRESENT..........ON DUTY>>> Where are you ????

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