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Six Fallbrook residents named in federal bust relating to drug trafficking involving Mexican Mafia


Wednesday, January 25th, 2012
Issue 04, Volume 16.
Debbie Ramsey
Managing Editor


Six Fallbrook residents were named in a major arrest sweep January 25 that involved a total of 119 individuals allegedly connected in racketeering conspiracy, drug trafficking, and firearm offenses throughout San Diego County with ties to the Mexican Mafia.

Lt. Theresa Adams-Hydar of the North County Gang Task Force said four Fallbrook residents were arrested that day, another was already serving prison time, and one is still being sought.

In Fallbrook, those arrested were Cynthia Varela, 52, in the 1000 block of Hillcrest Lane; Sarah Quintana, 29, in the 300 block of North Pico; Francisco Gutierrez, 29, in the 400 block of N. Main, and Cesar Flores, 20, in the 700 block of W. Fallbrook St., Pablo Franco, 32, was already in prison. Gustavo Barron, 22, remains a fugitive at large.

"The defendants in custody were arraigned in court Jan. 26 on federal indictments and the U.S. Attorney is asking that bail be denied on all," said Hydar.

When asked how strong the Fallbrook connection was in this operation, Hydar said, "This case had very significant connections to Fallbrook, and the drug trafficking going on was benefiting the Mexican Mafia."

Hydar explained that in this case heroin and methamphetamine were the two most prominent drugs being distributed, along with marijuana.

"These people were selling drugs or playing a role in the process and paying a ‘tax’ to the Mexican Mafia; they do that to make sure they don’t get any repercussions from them," said Hydar.

The Mexican Mafia, also known as "La Eme" is involved with the Varrio Fallbrook Locos, the Varrio San Marcos, and the Diablos and West Side gangs in Escondido.

Hydar said these gangs were paying a man named Rudy Espudo, 39, of San Marcos, who is allegedly a high-ranking member of the Mexican Mafia who oversees their activities throughout much of North County.

Hydar said the Mexican Mafia is a prison gang, not a street gang.

"They become indoctrinated in the prisons – when they come out, they become puppeteers," said Hydar.

Hydar went on to explain that some of those arrested were "facilitators."

"Facilitators are people who help out with the paying, the transferring of money, and with communication between those in prison and those on the street," said Hydar. The two Fallbrook women arrested in the sweep were categorized as "facilitators" by Hydar.

Others arrested were "soldiers," she said.

"The soldiers are gang members that are involved in violent acts – typically robbery, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, intimidation of witnesses, and drug trafficking," said Hydar.

Multiple law enforcement agencies participated in the large bust, all with the same goal – addressing problems with gangs, drugs, and violence. The coordinated effort involved three different law enforcement operations: , "Operation Notorious County," "Operation Carnalismo," and "Operation 12-Step."

"This coordination provides better intelligence about street gangs and violent crime within our communities," said U.S. Attorney Laura E. Duffy. "And better intelligence means better law enforcement and prosecutions."

Of the January 25 arrests, FBI Special Agent in Charge Keith Slotter said, "[These] arrests mark one of the largest single takedowns in San Diego FBI history. The FBI and our law enforcement partners stand unified in our efforts to protect this county from the violence, drug trafficking and extortion schemes employed by the Mexican Mafia and its affiliates. San Diego is inherently safer today because of the cooperation between our agencies working together to disrupt Advertisement
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and dismantle the criminal activities of these dangerous individuals."

San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore and his staff deal with the ramifications of these illegal activities on a daily basis and he expressed his satisfaction with the results of this particular sweep.

"Gangs were made to pay ‘taxes’ in order to facilitate their trafficking and violent behavior. We answered with a one-two punch: a strong and experienced multi-agency investigation, armed with the RICO statute. The results speak for themselves."

According to Duffy, these cases are being investigated by the FBI, the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives; the U.S. Marshals Service; San Diego County District Attorney’s Office; the U.S. Bureau of Prisons; the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation; the San Diego County Probation Department; Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations; Internal Revenue Service-Criminal Investigations; and Customs and Border Protection-United States Border Patrol in addition to numerous city police departments throughout the county.

The cases are being prosecuted in San Diego federal court by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Peter Mazza, Jaime Parks, Fred Sheppard and Tara McGrath.

(previous story, Jan. 25, 2012)

Gang sweep operation and arrests result in indictments for top Mexican Mafia leaders, gang members, including some in Fallbrook

SAN DIEGO COUNTY (Wire Service) - Federal indictments and complaints were unsealed today, Jan. 25, charging 117 street gang members and associates of the Mexican Mafia in San Diego County -- including two Mexican Mafia leaders -- with racketeering conspiracy, drug trafficking and firearm offenses.

Officers from state, local and federal agencies fanned out across San Diego County this morning, taking 104 defendants into custody.

The sweep -- involving three separate investigations -- is believed to be one of the largest ever in San Diego.

"I cannot remember an operation of this magnitude,"' said Sheriff Bill Gore. "San Diego County is a lot safer this morning than it was yesterday."

Charges resulted from "Operation Notorious County," an 18-month investigation led by the North County Regional Gang Task Force; "Operation Carnalismo," led by a group of federal, state and local law enforcement agents, including some from the FBI; and "Operation 12-Step," led by the East County Regional Gang Task Force.

U.S. Attorney Laura Duffy said ridding communities of gang violence was one of her main goals when she took office.

She said charges outlined in the racketeering conspiracy involved "a lot of violent acts," including attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon.

In one instance, a drug dealer was stabbed and shot when two defendants confronted him about being "shorted" in a methamphetamine transaction, Duffy said.

She said today's takedown "attacks every level of the Mexican Mafia," with two of the organization's top three leaders in San Diego now in custody.

"We landed a blow against the leadership of the Mexican Mafia," Duffy told reporters.

Alleged Mexican Mafia leaders Rudy Espudo and Salvadore Colabella were charged in separate indictments.

"The cases unsealed today make communities stronger and safer," Duffy said.

More than 14 pounds of methamphetamine, weapons and at least $150,000 in cash were seized during today's raids, Duffy said.

To those who think involvement in gang activity in San Diego isn't a big deal, "they need to think twice," Duffy said.

She said her office is "fiercely committed" to making communities safer by ridding them of illegal gang activity.

Village News note: Law enforcement has confirmed that some arrests took place in Fallbrook relating to this case. More information will be posted as soon as that information is released.


 

88 comments

Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #1 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Now let's just hope they can keep these thugs locked up. Too many times the police department does their job only to have the courts release what was caught.
Bravo to the law enforcement officers that participated in this raid and, thank you!
Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #2 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Very good! This is fantastic news all the way around! I observed the Sheriff's tactical armored vehicles convoying up S. Mission Rd about 6am. Very impressive to say the least. Cannot wait to hear more about this and the Fallbrook nexus especially.


Hope this translation works:

Muy buena! Esta es una noticia fantástica en todos los sentidos! Observé la táctica del Sheriff vehículos blindados envío de S. Misión rd 6am. Muy impresionante para decir lo menos. No podemos esperar para conocer más acerca de este y el Fallbrook nexo especialmente.

Al infierno con las mafias!
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #3 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:08 pm
We should all be thankful for this type of activity. I know it takes a lot of planning for this to happen, but I say "Plan More". We all here thank you and we are looking forward to the next roundup to begin. Hold on to your bootstraps hoodlums, the next time your number might be up. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Comment Profile Imagewildheart
Comment #4 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Great job! Thank you to all of the law enforcement officers and others involved.
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #5 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:08 pm
GEEZ.... Someone challenged me saying "where do I get my gang information from" when I say there are FOUR active gangs in Fallbrook, this individual says we only have ONE. I say the VFL and MM count as TWO, guess I was correct all along.

Folks, FOUR active (hispanic) gangs in Fallbrook, Don't listen to a Fallbrook essa, listen to me.
Comment Profile Imagelocal
Comment #6 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm
hahaha wow good luck with that... the sheriff department here in Fallbrook is funny!!! so far all ive heard had been a bunch of funny stuff and lies... Best luck in reaching US hahahahah
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Comment #7 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:25 pm
iF those thugs didnt do nothing , theirs NO reason to keep them in .
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #8 | Wednesday, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:52 pm
That must have been what was going on this morning on North Main. So where were the Mexican Mafia suspects arrested? Fallbrook?
Comment Profile ImageCall it like I see it.
Comment #9 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:41 am
A job well done. But charges like " attempted murder and assult with a deadly weapon" don't seem like the Mexican mafia that I know of. It's just murder and more murder. And 14 pounds of meth and $150K is nothing. I mean nothing. More drugs and money goes through San Diego County every day than we can comprehend. When the U.S. goes after the Mexican mafia they will need the military. Search what the Mexican mafia is doing in Mexico these days. An 18 month investigation produced 14 pounds of meth and $150K sounds like poor PR. We know what happens to any Mexican put in jail here and for the dealer who got stabed, who cares? Those kind of stabings go on in our jails. Search So. Ca. Mexican mafia in Wikipedia. The Mexican mafia has been in Fallbrook since 2002 that I know of.
Comment Profile ImageNorth County
Comment #10 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:56 am
I woke up to one of those raids yesterday at my complex and when it was all said and done with I really have a new found appreciation for the law enforcement who keep me and my family and everyone else safe because I'm not from around here, we just moved here and I'm not used to this kind of news. I am so greatful to know they are doing their job and doing its greatly!!!
Comment Profile Image35 YEAR RESIDENT
Comment #11 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:45 am
The gangs are just doing the jobs Americans won't do.
Comment Profile ImagePunks
Comment #12 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 am
Lames
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Comment Profile Imagebfls
Comment #13 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:21 am
only gang in fallbrook is bfls!!!!!!!!!!!
get correct info ray.
Comment Profile Imagecaln8tve
Comment #14 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:22 am
Wow...some of your comments are really well written and some of the comments are not.....no matter what nationality you are you will get caught, you will be arrested and you will be thrown in jail. Why must you be in a gang anyway? Oh that's right...you aren't anything without your buddies....what a bunch of losers. Thanks to ALL San Diego County officials for doing a great job. We citizens are sick and tired of this.
Comment Profile ImageJoe
Comment #15 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:59 pm
To those who think involvement in gang activity in San Diego isn't a big deal, "they need to think twice," Duffy said.

Hey maybe this guy Duffy needs to talk to our local Sheriff....didnt they say we dont have a gang problem?
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Comment #16 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Before you start giving thumbs up you should think about the families, the children have nothing to do with any of the choices made by the parents and making a big scandal at 6 am bringing babies out the freezing cold with no blanket when they were just woken up from being in a warm bed?? I don't care how much trash you talk about how the dad is a crimminal and should think before doing things the children are not at fault!! Atleast give the mom a chance to get a freakin blanket!!...This is all a bunch of bull all they did was link parolees with cases that had to do with drug abuse and asault connected it with being gang members and classified it as being in the mafia...being in a gang does not mean that you automatically have anything to do with the mafia...the only reason why they did this is because they want someone to blame because they don't want the comunity to say that the goverment isn't doing their job...which they do a bad job like 40 s.w.a.t. members and 15 others all from the FBI and of course all the fallbrook sheriffs tagging along for just 1 man...are you kidding??..wich brings me to the next point after the FBI do their so called job and take in the person they leave while the fallbrook sheriff "gang unit" and their leader stay only to over search what the others already searched...why is it that just because he has a gun and a badge he thinks he can call people all kinds of names and even insult your whole family??...He's nobody just a normal human being who thinks has the highest power in the world, it should be illegal to be a male officer and pat down a pregnant woman with no criminal record and who is wearing nothing but leggings and a tank top just because he said so...there are so many things done wrong by the goverment.
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #17 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Ok so I guess you think it is OK to let these punks just do whatever they want to do just because it might insult the mother of the children? Or because the baby that is in the house that the punk is around and possibly bringing violence in the house is cold? i would rather that the baby be cold rather then dead. If the mother allows a punk like this around her baby, is she not as guilty as the punk? I guess we need to really dig deep and think about the danger that these so called mothers are putting their baby's through, or are allowing to be around them. I think with the way the world is today, the law officers must make sure that they are protected, more so then the punk you are so protecting that would kill you in a New York minute. Evidently, you must of been one of the ones that were closely related to or close to one of the punks taken in. Grow up!!
Comment Profile ImageRogue
Comment #18 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:52 pm
We are making this far more complicated that it really is. To solve this problem we need to:
1. Throw out this disaster of an administration in 2012.
2. Pass an airtight E-Verify law that applies across the country. Lose the jobs they will leave.
3. Take our troops out of Europe/NATO. Let the Europeans defend themselves. Put some of those troops, I would say about two or three Armored Cavalry Regiments, on the border to back up the Border Patrol. In other words secure the border.
4. Allow our law enforcement officers the freedom to use provisions provided in the new Alabama and Arizona laws. If we do that by 2014 the border immigration/Gangster/illegal alien problems will be pretty much history.
Comment Profile ImageTo the real ray
Comment #19 | Thursday, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:32 pm
A lil fact ray, vFLS, is tha only gang in fallbrook! Tha 13 stands for the letter M, which is the mexican mafia, or for mexican, meaning its a hispanic gang, any gang with tha 13 at the end is linked to tha prison gang mexican mafia, in tht case, vFLSx13, is linked to them, n thy send out word to sell drugs,... read a lil n know a lil about our community!
Comment Profile ImageGuest
Comment #20 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:38 am
“I observed the Sheriff's tactical armored vehicles convoying up S. Mission Rd about 6am. Very impressive to say the least.”

Sounds like a large operation for Fallbrook! So how many individuals were arrested in Fallbrook? Maybe the Village News readers have the answer, Since the Village News writers do not. Sounds like it was not that many!
Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #21 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:23 am
#16 - LMAO

Why don't you Google and see how many articles are out there about criminals wives have assaulted and killed police officers. How would they know there was not a party the night before and eight of his best friends were not camped out in his pad? Are the police omniscient? Last I heard that power belongs to God.

Try another Google search on the connection between Hispanic (Mexican) street gang members are associated with the Mexican Mafia. Someone has to help pay for the MM, that are in prison, to keep their cells stocked with cup-o-noodles and a smuggled cell phone from time to time.

And, although the Feds to "overkill" things sometimes do you know for fact that your friend or family member (an assumption on my part of course based upon your heartfelt comments) has no prior history of gun violations, or that he did not possess one at the time?

I can go on and on of course, but why break apart every sentence of your pathetic diatribe? You lose this battle in the public opinion war me thinks... otherwise at least your comments were somewhat well articulated which I commend you for.

Darn, and people wonder why I am so pessimistic.
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Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #22 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:36 am
Then again, #16, maybe you are the wife / girlfriend since your comments are so 'first hand'. If that is the case - good luck to you without your well-rounded man for awhile; the Feds don't mess around with those sentencing guidelines. OUCH!
Comment Profile ImageDee
Comment #23 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:01 am
Is it a good thing to keep these so called "THUGS" incarcerated. This means that more and more prison's are going to be crowded, more tax money needed and once these "THUGS" get released in a couple months they have gained even MORE knowledge in drug trafficking. Street gangs are going to recruit young teens who go through a phase of wanting to experiment the thrill of putting their life in danger just to earn respect. This large sweep won't stop the still on going violence, take one three more emerge in that spot.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #24 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:50 am
When might the update be coming?

This was a larger event then many of the sweeps, with all the agencies and vehicles. These are the types of stories that locals are interested in.

Will there be names and locations published?
Comment Profile ImageSherrie Gonzales-Kolb
Comment #25 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:10 am
Remind people that the word Mexican means a person from Mexico, which is not the same as Mexican-Americans, i.e., an American citizen who is of Mexican ethnicity. The level of racism in Fallbrook has shamefully risen to an all-time high. I lived in Fallbrook for the majority of my life, and sadly, Fallbrook is no longer the "friendly" village in which I was raised.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi
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Comment Profile ImageSherrie Gonzales-Kolb
Comment #26 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:13 am
In addition, NOT all those who come here legally and/or illegally are involved in gangs. Duh.
Comment Profile ImageCarla
Comment #27 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:49 am
@25-Agreed. Racists!
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #28 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Rogue,

What a genius idea. I agree totally with you. We need to control our boarders and put the ones that are not here illegally, and place them on their own side of the boarder, and the anchors that they had thought was going to keep them here. That would be a great start. I happened to see boarder patrol in our town today, I am hoping that they are checking out the town and the areas that need to be focused on so that we can start the big cleanup. Thank you Rogue for the beautiful information.
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Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #29 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Well #23, then maybe, just maybe parents should be just that, "Parents", to ensure that their darling little children grow up with respect for our country and the laws that are part of our country. But I guess if you are not from this country, then the respect level goes down, doesn't it? Just saying!
Comment Profile Imagefallbrook born!!
Comment #30 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm
All this negativity! you are all just being judgemental! i'm sure you old ignorant people dont have room to talk. you think you have all the facts, alot of people were arrested and released because the fallbrook shertiff department made "mistakes" way to go waisting taxpayers money! who are all of you to judge all these people and I do know first hand I am a mother, wife, daughter, sister and aunt. I'm sure you all have made bad choices in your life... the prisons are filling up and you all think it;s the "right thing to do" wow! if you are as dumb as you sound i feel sorry for the generation your leaving behind.. Do your homework before you start talking smack... I am a U>S citizen but about that arizona law... I would love to see you old people and your children and your childrens children picking avocados, picking stawberries, cleaning your own house.... all those mexican people are working hard to get threw life. you are just complaining because you are lazy and ashamed that you have to pay someone to do your hard work..... you are all qhick top talk and slow to thing...may god bless you!
Comment Profile Imagelocale_mom
Comment #31 | Friday, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:34 pm
It interests me how many people do not see the association of our local gang with affiliation of La Eme. "M".. 13th letter in the alphabet.. notice all VFLx3 tagging has similiar signature? It's universal, organized and should give every local mom same opportunity to preach it while they still can. Even asked law enforcement officer if he seen the connection, he didn't believe there was one. Thanks for this article, just hope home sales here keep going because living on one side of the street if you drive the other way, you would never know there was ever a neighborhood nuisance.

http://www.accuracyproject.org/GangAcronyms-US.html
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook Blues
Comment #32 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:04 am
@Fallbrook Born-Well obviously they are not all picking avocados and strawberries or doing housekeeping a lot of them have moved on to doing illegal/gang activities.

@Sherrie and Carla-People are not being racist they are just calling it as they see it. I would just love to know how many non-hispanics are documented Fallbrook Street Gang Members.
Comment Profile ImageJC
Comment #33 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:28 am
#30, I have no ideal what you just said! As I was trying to read between the poor grammar, and disjointed thoughts I did realize that you stated that some of the persons arrested were released. Where did you find that information? It is my understanding that no one arrested was released, maybe some of the persons DETAINED were released and that is what you were trying to state.
Comment Profile Imagelazzboy
Comment #34 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:23 am
Fallbrook Born,

I would have never guessed that you were US born by your reply here on FVN. Hopefully my children are better at spelling and grammer than you are with their Fallbrook education. As far as your being lazy comment, stand corrected on that one. This country was built by hardworking Americans, that's right we are a nation that is very young in comparison to other countries and we didn't get to where we are today by being lazy. Yes I understand that the minorities are a large part of the work force in America, but I guarantee you that if things were different we would have to do those jobs as well.

Plus I dont see mexicans complaining about making cash under the table, not paying taxes on that money, collecting FREE health care and FREE education oh and don't leave out the housing as well.

Put the shoe on the other foot, I work very hard and pay lots of taxes so that the mexicans can live a better life here (and I dont have a problem with that). Let me leave you with this question. If I went to Mexico illegally with my wife and kids and had no job and just labor skills, how would that government support me and my family? Oh here let me answer that for you. "THEY WOULDN'T"
Comment Profile ImageWhat it Is Really
Comment #35 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:45 am
I thank those men in the Dept for their duty. They are trying to get the streets back for honest citizens.
If women and babies are uncomfortable during the round ups, perhaps they should look to their man as to why he is doing this to their family. Ask their man why our teenagers and older adults cannot feel safe on thier own streets due to the warped minds of drug users. Ask their man why he will be sent to the Bay (PBSP), and gone to their family forever due to their own poor choices.
A gang life is no life. Read up on it and see the snare that becomes more and more choking to the point that cellies murder cellies because of ordered gang hits.
It is not a life. It is like the living dead to be in a gang.
Do everything you can to avoid the gang life at all costs.
Living in an 8 x 10 box with no family contact, and others in the
unit that are from opposite gangs that want to get to you, is not something you want to aim for in life.
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #36 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:56 am
TO THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE:

IF IT WAS SUCH A "BIG" OPEATION..WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS? CASES LIKE THIS DEMAND AN EYE OPENING FOR ITS RESIDENTS...DO WE NEED BETTER WRITERS? WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR UPATES AFTER 3 DAYS, I AM SURE THE PEOPLE ARRESTED ALRADY FACED A JUDGE....WHERE'S THE INFORMATION?

FALLBROOK WITH ITS MEXICAN MAFIA...PLEASE....IT'S TOO FUNNY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A GANG POBLEM RIGHT?

IT'S BEYOND ME ALL THE COMMOTION THIS CAUSES...WE LIVE IT DAY BY DAY...BUT ONLY WHEN SOMETHING IS "REPOTED" WE GET ALL ALARMED? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #37 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm
#30, I am not old and I do not walk around with ignorance better known as blinders by some. I am probably as young as you are, if not younger. I know what is right and what wrong, I learned that early on. Some people learn the right way, and some don't ever learn. Picking fruit or vegetables for a living is never something to be ashamed of, it is still working for a living, instead of living off of a Government that you have contributed nothing to. Don't verse me about making a living the hard way, because I probably know about this more than you. Who is stereotyping now? Sorry, but the last sentence, is hard to understand your point. Clarify?
Comment Profile ImageFALLBROOK LEADER
Comment #38 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm
FIRST LET ME START WITH SAYING WITH WHAT HAPPEN IN FALLBROOK IS NOTHING THE LAW THINKS THEY GOT A BIG HIT BUT IF THEY ONLY KNEW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN OUR STREETS THEY WILL NEVER CLEAN IT UP KUZ THEY WILL KEEP ON MULTYPLYING THAT WAS JUST A SMALL HIT
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #39 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Well KUZ, the next one might be you, Kuz you be the leader and all. You keep hiding behind your little crevices, but the Feds will get ya, and when they do, you will cry like a little baby.
Comment Profile ImageMM13
Comment #40 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Please. The Feds are below us. We pay them off.
Comment Profile ImageFALLBROOK BORN!
Comment #41 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm
i love it how easy it is to get a rise out of all you! keep making your remarks. keep getting offended you still don't know anything! Have a great week i am not getting mad at any of you some day all you threats and remarks will come back to bite you in the butt with someone in your family... hahaha Sarah, Cynthia, and Pablo are white not Mexican hahahahaha !!!!
Comment Profile ImageMe myself n I
Comment #42 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm
This is sad to hear especially nothing like this is really going on
Comment Profile ImageGoran
Comment #43 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm
What a world. Illiterate children pecking away at their keyboard bragging about Law breakers.

It's the perfect analogy: Illegal Alien Law breakers demanding that the laws not apply to them.
You can't kick me out of this movie theater, I snuck in with other non-ticket holders and now I have a right to see this movie because I'm here. Like The first time I ever saw the word 'Aztlan' was on a sign held by a marcher in one of the big illegal immigration rights protests of a couple of years back, right on Main Street. I also saw the word 'Reconquista' in the same crowd. Anyone here besides me care to translate that? Kind of gives lie to the canard that all illegals are just peaceful lettuce pickers, as does this article. Time to Wake up people.
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Comment #44 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Darn Really , You Had To PUT THEM ON BLAST ? i Mean Whata Are you guys going to like go to their houses and beat them or what? is that why you need to post up the adresses. i Dont care if there in a mafia or not , there people with feelings, they chose that life style , and if it affects anyone its because they let it affect them.&To Comment #39 , I Dont Think He Will Be Crying Like A Baby, He/She Knows VERY darn well what life style they were picking when they got themselves into this. For All You Being Racist&Saying "Mexicans" i Know SO Many White People That Want To Join VFLS , But VFLS Doesnt Want Them Haha , It DOES Not Matter What Raise You Are , Last Year They Chased A WHITE DRUG DEALER around town in fallbrook It was scandalous and his was worst the cops were chasing him in from of school areas bus stops&Potter Kids were walking to their bus stop at that time.
And For Real , For Every 1 Man You Take In , There is Atleast 4 People Trying To Take Their Place. There will ALWAYS be violence in this world , no matter how hard you try to stop it , you wont be able to. Sometimes Even The Cops Create Violence , They Pull Out A Gun On Them Just Because Their In a SUIT Doesn't Mean That Isn't Asult. I Bet You Half The Cops Would KILL A Gangster If They Could..
Comment Profile Imageresident2
Comment #45 | Saturday, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:58 pm
well u know what some of the mexican mafia members arent that bad!theonesin Fallbrook dont go out and killing families they go out and kill different gang members that are in their terator.they aintthat messed upas u think they are.STOP being so judgmental
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Comment #46 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:00 am
Stop being so judgmental
Comment Profile ImageIBAM
Comment #47 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:29 am
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MANAGING EDITOR, DEBBIE RAMSEY, FOR THE UPDATE ON THIS STORY.

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Village News replies: Thank you. We had been trying to get the Fallbrook specific info for a few days. Appreciate your note. ---Debbie Ramsey
Comment Profile ImagePessimistic
Comment #48 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:44 am
What a bunch of illiterate fools on here, the apologists for the crooks arrested. If you want to make a point that people "may" pay attention to start by at least attempting to be articulate.

#44 - LMAO on your entire post; and part of me wishes you were right (your last sentence). What a JOKE you are!
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Comment #49 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Oh my, to all you bashing on my comment.... I am not a wife/girlfriend of one of the men caught in this bust!!! My husband sleeps very comfortly in our bed every night and has nothing to do with any of that but I have seen unfair things, remarks, and actions from the sheriffs that so called protect our streets they catergorize people simply by our race and last name, and you should do your homework on these officers there one in particular who I shall not name who at one point went around chasing miners and automatically documented as gang members he did it to boys and girls and then told them that he was a former gang member from vista and would bash on fallbrook...and yes I do know this from first hand, so what? I could care less what your oppinion is about that..it doesn't take my sleep away at night, it's so stupid how people are so PROUD of the government when the mafia has A LOT of inside operators they work from the inside out and out of all the government officials, workers, cops, judges, ext. out all them about 60% are currupted and work for the bad guys, anyway go ahead and talk smack about my comments I don't care.......oh and go suck on your fat toe....how do you like for bad grammar.
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Comment #50 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Why the hate? Why so racist?? All these ppl I know n they r American citizens!!! It's so sad to see cuz no one knows them best but family.. This to me is BS!! Feds got this twisted the truth will come out
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Comment #51 | Sunday, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:03 pm
"they go out and kill different gang members that are in their terator.they aintthat messed upas u think they are.STOP being so judgmental"

OMG, are we in trouble, are you for real? Resident2?

Arm yourselves folks...this is going to get worse before it gets better, these people are nuts!
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #52 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:28 am
That was a new low in comments. I checked to see if I had read correctly. It is difficult to read that gibberish, but it DID say to not be judgemental about the Mexican Mafia, didn't it?
Comment Profile ImageUYFGTYD
Comment #53 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:41 am
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!! AND IT IS TRUE SARAH, CINTHIA, AND PABLO ARE WHITE NOT MEXICAN.... A LOT OF PEOPLE ARRESTED WERE NOT JUST MEXICANS!!!!! AND THAT IS A FACT NOT A THEORY OR SOMETHING I LOOKED UP ON GOOGLE!
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Comment #54 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:57 am
Wow Cindy, and Sarah!!! Im sure your husband and step dad is turning in his grave right about now. What a shame you both are involved with this kind of *hit!! Your poor kids Sarah and poor grandchildren Cindy. Once a loser, always a loser. Glad to see you off the streets, all you do is mad dog everyone if your outside of your house...I mean apartment!!
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #55 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:36 am
Fallbrookxico
Comment Profile ImageIknowhim
Comment #56 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:22 am
They may be white, but they act like mexicans....thats called whites-a-kins lol WANNA BEEEESSS hahahahaha!!!!!!!
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Comment #57 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Did you say a whiteboy named Pablo, wow thats a first for me. I went to an all white affluent school and never met a Pablo.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #58 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I saw Pablo's photo in the North County Times article. Believe me, he's Mexican.
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Comment #59 | Monday, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pablo n Sarah are brother n sister n they are half white and half Mexican... The mom is fully white but married a Mexican
Comment Profile ImageMake the connection
Comment #60 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:48 am
Wow...remember 6 mos ago the outpouring from some in this community for this man who was "good" and just made a mistake? Now that his gang connections have been exposed through the arrest of his family members this past week, does anyone want to retract their post? You may want to think twice before admitting your affiliation with this family. http://www.thevillagenews.com/story/57262/
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Comment #61 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:38 am
Since we live so close to the Marine Base, it would be great for them to swoop all these gang misfits back to their original homes across the border. If not them then their misguided parents who have babies and then don't know what to do with them. lol
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Comment #62 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Lettuce pickers, really?? Boy you sure are an ignorant cracker!!!! Nobody picks lettuce around here morran they’re avocados and so what?? It’s hard work that you most likely don’t have the energy to do!!! Man some people through the years instead of getting smarter they get more ignorant…not all MEXICANS are gang bangers and involed in the mafia…like not all WHITE people are as dumb and closed minded as you, not all ASIANS are smart, and not all BLACK people are thugs!!...You should take a walk in poway where there are dozens of white homeless men and women begging the hard working Mexicans doing yard work for any spare change, and don’t think they want it to go get something to eat..they use it to buy beer, cigarrets and drugs!!! It’s understandable that you all have a bad opinion about the men caught in this so called mafia bust but don’t judge a whole race based on some bad choices some Mexicans did and yes Pablo and Sarah are brother and sister and their mom Cindy is fully white…should we categorize all white women as white trash based on her mistakes???..Have you not seen the bunch of fully white girls walking around town thinking they’re all that having sex with so called Mexican thugs just to get free drugs??..Should we judge all white girls based on their actions??...I have a son who goes to school, has straight A’s doesn’t get trouble, and spends his free time reading books, he is a citizen born and raised here in fallbrook but of Mexican descent, should I be scared that one of you ignorant people might run him over because you hate Mexicans??..You all think you know everything and in reality you know nothing , you just believe whatever you want because you live in a boubble of racism, good luck in your lives and hopefully you are never need of Mexican blood for your tranfusions…and hopefully you or anyone in your family are never in need of a Mexican organ to survive.
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Comment #63 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm
#60 Knowing things from first hand doesn't mean that we have family ties with any of these men, when things happen right infront of your apt. you can see and hear everything because of the scandal being made by the sheriffs, they're not exactly quiet, #61 you should also protest so that they can make all those marines skipping child support pay as well, you all complain about welfare being paid by us citizens to illegals, well I don't wanna pay it to anyone not even the marines!!! It seems like when it comes to people having kids and not knowing what to do with them it applies to all races not just Mexicans, or there wouldn't be so many skater boys comitting vandalism, breaking bottles and then skating off.
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Comment #64 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:44 pm
To: "IKNOWHIM", my name is Mike, what is yours? Put a name behind that nonsense you're speaking of. It's real disrespectful and real dumb to be talking about people's famillies and kids, atleast you could stop being a coward and introduce yourself.
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Comment #65 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:33 pm
" If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to eachother " - Mother Teresa
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Comment #66 | Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:47 pm
It's always entertaining to read about a scandal in Fallbrook. Some people are seriously ignorit. Well first of all I would like to comment about our racist little town it's ok (mexican american/mexican) my people they can say and think whatever their little heart feels! We too are racist and everyone sticks to there own kind. Now heres I little education for you white folks who claim to know it all did you know that the Mexican mafia only has people who are mexican american citizens as "high ranking" and all other members all only affiliates. Most importantly stop the hysterics as for back we can all recall the mafia as always been around italian, russian, asian and so on but since this one involves mexican americans it makes you all feel with the right to make it a whole race attack. In regards to this case I will not comment about the people involved because I do not know the facts.
Comment Profile ImageReally? (the real one)
Comment #67 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:42 am
Thanks for your pointless and trite little lecture # 66.

Do you have any more clichés you would like to share with us?.....Oh Yeah...RAAACISTS....(almost forgot).
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Comment #68 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm
#66

"Some people are seriously ignorit".

Why, yes, they certainly are.
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Comment #69 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm
MIKE!!!! So what are you throwing at me a threat?? Im pretty sure I know who you are, her neighbor right?? You are in the VFLs if its the Mike I thinking of. So your are capible of violent acts...sure im gunna give you my name hahahaha!!! Truth hurts you and thats all there is to it...Ive know Mon for years, he is well respected by me, not the two women I was speaking of!!!!!!!So get over it MIKEY
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #70 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Let's recap the front page this week. Three news stories regarding crimes "this week alone" let's say have a "tan klan" aroma to them. You folks just don't want to listen when I say Fallbrook is turning into some low income, chickens and pigs runnin' around, wash your clothes on a stone in the creek pueblo in some backwards part of Mexico, actually all of Mexico but you still want to ignore the truth. I don't own the notes on your homes, think about it.
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Comment #71 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm
S.P.A.J.S.S.

You say "they’re avocados " who the heck is an avocado? you say "doesn’t get trouble" who does get trouble? Your perception is skewed and you are obviously in your own little "Boubble". "and hopefully you or anyone in your family are never in need of a Mexican organ to survive."
get a life!

to all forces involved... "Good job cleaning up our town!!!"
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Comment #72 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm
fallbrook gang BFLS..... BIGFATLAZZYSLOBS
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Comment #73 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Tomas- there avocados, he doesn't get in trouble, and you live in a bubble, I hope you are NEVER in need of a Mexican organ to survive.....you S.T.FU. and get a life, if you had one you wouldn't have time to correct other people's spelling....your spelling isn't so good either "skewed"...... Go ahead and keep it coming your opinion doesn't hurt cause to me you're nobody. LMAO!!!!
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Comment #74 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Almost everytime I read something on this site I prepare myself for the comments because I know so many of the post are going to talk about race. All these hateful comments do is make it worse for our kids! What is wrong with yall?! Sometimes the post isnt even about a mexican or black person and somehow its turned around, usually by Ray. I am so grateful to have ANY gang members or criminals arrested so my child can safely walk to the bus stop or to the store. GANGS and CRIMINALS come in every race! Maybe if we came together as neighbors regardless of race it would be a friendly village again. I know Im wasting my time typing this because of the large amount of racist fools in this town blowing this site up. If you dont like members of a different race MOVE somewhere that only has your race so the rest of us who where raised with respect dont have to deal with it. PS it shouldnt matter but Im white.
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Comment #75 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:17 pm
I wouldn't call any of this racist, racism or bigotry. I would merely call this stereotyping. Thats right if you follow the same behavior of an individual that happens to be, mexican, black or asian and repeat the same behaviors as being in a gang or a thug or a low life it is very easy to be labeled. Put it this way for those that understand its like being typecasted, except your not in the movies and your making much less.

So if you don't want to be labeled or typecasted than change your behaviors and prove to society that you are a person that is making this world a better place for youself, your family or mankind.

If not than don't be suprised when you are issued those silver bracelets and your having a longterm stay at the Greybar Inn.

Ignorance Is Bliss
Look it up, be different
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Comment #76 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm
9000 good hardworking legal latino people living in fallbrook,
150 gangbangers making us look bad,
Everytime a latino crime pops up he manipulates your minds by saying its all those 9000 latinos commiting the crimes!...
Dont be fooled we are good people, lets get rid of that small 150!
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Comment #77 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:23 pm
And by (he) i was talking about ray
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Comment #78 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:33 pm
#67

Your comment is absolutely pointless. Why don't you try google and educate yourself or try reading a few books! Ignorit people exactly my point! Racist why the heck not. It's always a illegal immigrant issue theses people involved are US citizens.
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Comment #79 | Wednesday, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Mexican mafia is a joke. They are easy to spot and can easily be ran out of town
Comment Profile ImageAre You Kidding Me!
Comment #80 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:48 am
#72,
You are not wasting your time at all. I wish there were ways that we could come together as a community as well, but the odds are rolling against us every single day. The town first must be cleaned up, and put people in their places. Then we will be able to manage this town a little better then it is being managed right now. There is racism in all colors, and the ones I have come across here is the Mexicans and their disrespectful ways. You try to say hello, or a smile with no response. Probably because they choose not to honor our country's language so they don't understand. You have to understand that a smile is used in any language, and when you get a smart-__s smirk instead of a smile back, it tends to turn your heart a little or a lot sour, especially when you know that they probably are not suppose to be here. I am just saying that it would be a great picture to paint to have everyone get along, unfortunately, there are some that chose that they would rather walk around with a chip on their shoulders, then to get along. I have tried, with the most disrespectful of responses. It is tiresome, and I will not stand or sit for it. Good luck trying to bring everyone together for the town's greater good.
Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #81 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:48 am
Erick: Sorry but I just can't comprehend a culture 100 years out of time. I live in a microchip world, I don't have any vaccum tubes laying around. I critique hispanics not to insult but to enlighten, sorry if you feel offended but let's face it, without this certain element causing the majority of the problems, Fallbrook would resemble Mayberry.

Anyone read the story on Wednesday where they are thinking about passing a law which would allow the keeping of farm animals in urban areas? They state it's due to the minorities (hispanics mainly) and their cultural ways (peonic). Once again "we" have to tolerate people who just outright refuse to assimilate and adapt to this country and it's laws and ways.

A Joke: what do you call a hispanic man in a three piece suit?

The defendant.
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Comment Profile ImageRay (the real one)
Comment #82 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:13 am
Unreal: Move? Where? Can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. I do believe that it's our god given right to dislike anyone we choose. I told this story once before, I'll tell it to you now. In Stockton California there is a business in the black area of town which has a sign saying "we don't cater to white people" and I respect that position just as I respect the position that I should have the right to hire, do business with, rent or sell to anyone I choose to... period. So if I have a sign saying "only english spoken here" Like Geno's Philly Cheese Steak in Philidelphia has, it's his right to do so and the courts saw it his way. Sorry but I got my politically correct vaccine decades ago, can't catch that disease anymore.

And... by the way.... I do have black, hispanic, asian friends, they tend to see things the way I do, they are not "ghetto".
Comment Profile ImageEverybody calm down
Comment #83 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:34 am
If you are new to the comments section of this site then you can be forgiven for getting a little worked up about Ray's comments. Even Ray himself will probably admit that he says these things to get a rise out of people. One has to admit that he does keep things interesting.

His comments used to anger me, but now they just make me a little sad. I try to think of a reason for someone to comment on a local paper's website for a town that one does not even live in. The only anser that I can come up with is that this is the only place where anybody pays attention.

I for one will sit back with some delicious Fallbrook mexican food topped of with a hand picked local avocado with some rice and beans and read what crazy #$!& Ray has to say today.
Comment Profile ImageTOMAS
Comment #84 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:25 pm
S.P.A.J.S.S.
please see below def. of your crazed view of life...
haha
skew (sky)
v. skewed, skew·ing, skews
v.intr.
1. To take an oblique course or direction.
2. To look obliquely or sideways.
v.tr.
1. To turn or place at an angle.
2. To give a bias to; distort.
adj.
1. Placed or turned to one side; asymmetrical.
2. Distorted or biased in meaning or effect.
3. Having a part that diverges, as in gearing.
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Comment #85 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm
-everybody calm down-
You are so right we all should stop playing Ray's game and stop commenting on his stuff because we're just making him think he's important and that his opinions matter, when in reality he's of no importance.
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Comment #86 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Idiotic......well what do you know the definition for that is none other than you TOMAS....a latin version of the name Thomas. Hahaha. I'm not gonna play your game my comment wasn't directed toward you personally, but It's seems to be the shoe fit that's why you directed your comments towards me specifically...you're not worth my time I will not comment to you again because you're a waist of my time. Keep barking.
Comment Profile ImageCarla
Comment #87 | Thursday, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Ray (the real one) doesn't seem to be able to recognize that he's part of a culture as he puts it "years out of time". Nazi Germany has been destroyed and Jim Crow is over. Isn't there a white separatist group somewhere, someplace for you? It's still pure white in Antarctica, hint, hint.
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Comment #88 | Friday, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm
bbahahaa

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