All electric home and the bill last month, only 56.00.
Befor solar 375 Aug bill.
Yes, we had the air on during the real hot days.

This is the 2nd year with solar, payoff 3more yrs out.

Sorry I doubled. Let's talk Carter. I joined the Army during his god forsaken administration and let's go through how good a president he was. After everyone left the military after Viet Nam conflict for General Dynamics, Lockheed and Boeing, all that was left were leftover burnouts and overall idiots. The military budget was stripped so much, we could barely keep a Jeep running let alone an armed conflict, let's talk about that. Remember the ill fated rescue attempt of the hostages? The news reports said, high winds and sand storms, yeah right, it was lack of maintenance, skilled personnel and no money, they just fell out of the sky, not airworthy. How about making sargeants into officers so congress would see that the officer structure was intact during their readiness investigations. So what if he put solar cells on the White House roof, I recycle, what award do I get?

Why isn't everybody jumping in with both feet ? If I owned I definitely would ... $375 ? you must have a pool..

The military budget was stripped so much, we could barely keep a Jeep running let alone an armed conflict, let's talk about that.

Okay .. I could go for some of that, it's time has come ...

Back to the article ... Should we give Jerry another whack at it ?

The problem with solar is it takes a footprint the size of your home to produce one half the electricity. Using this logic, it would take an area the size of California to power California half the time. Yes it does save money i'll agree but it's up front cost is still too high. Wind also takes up too vast an area and it's somewhat inefficient, too many turbines cause "prop wash" rendering many inoperative, go see off interstate 10, the windmill farms. If this country really wants to be energy independent, I know all the "libbies and greenies" will scream like children but it's nuclear folks. Eruope has been nuclear for decades now without an accident. I know, the horrors of Three Mile Island, the battle cry for the "no nukes" but back than the computers used had less memory and operations than your I phone does today and the technology is not new anymore. If the navy can run a carrier 30 years before it's core needs replacement, so can a new plant. Most power plants are either coal or gas fired, all the fossil fuels we use are mainly for vehicles, heating oil (back east) and for petro based products like plastics. We could be energy independent within 10 years if we used all three, wind, solar and nuclear along with our vast reserves of natural gas. Any vehicle except deisel can be converted to natural gas for as little as $1000 and with the exception of a small power loss, works fine and is already being used today in public transportation and can be adapted at every fueling station with little or no expense to the station owner. We just need the political will to get it done and I don't see either party willing to do it, less with the demi's on nuclear and natural gas. So we wait and wait and nothing gets done. Lots of good ideas are out there. Last night on KUSI, a startup company in San Diego sells a device that saves your washer water and recycles it for lawn and other usages. I didn't know the average washer uses 50 gallons a cycle? Interested in using this technology, go to the KUSI web site for detasils. It's not that American's don't want to chane to new technologies it's the cost.

I can't figure out how everyone's electric bill is so high. I have to really work to get mine over $100 a month. Typically it's $60.

I can't get solar because it would take decades to pay off.

People, try turning off the lights.

Ray ("get real"): What does your stint in the army have to do with modern alternative energy policy?
This is a good example of a distracting, irrelevant non sequitur used by people who cannot focus on a vital, central idea.

The "demmie" who wrote the article mentioned Carter, who in my opinion was not a good president, I just gave my opinion as why and Brown who's vision extends to other planets. Now my last post "did" focus on the issues thank you. See the Fallbrook Democratic Party is trying their spin before the election.

observant: Some units here in my complex are solar and do save money but constantly fighting for those discounts credits can really be a pain. Solar is too expensive now. I saw a commercial last night for a solar portable backup unit for power outages and such, looked interesting, might check it out if it does not cost the same as a used car.

observant - its that illegal circuit bypass/hookup the previous owners installed on your house for their indoor marijuana grow.

Shhhhhhhh..... I'd keep it on the low-low until discovered and use that claim when they want to past bill and/or charge you criminally. I think it would be a good defense.

;-)

on topic - Carter is running neck and neck with Nobama as the worst, most destructive president we have had. As to Moonbeam - what a joke he is; but look what they gave us as an alternative choice - NOTHING! I see continued economic implosion of this once great state no matter who is elected. At least Brown is "tough on crime".

Hey Joe: Catch this story? Obama say's no to solar on White House. We got change, for the worse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/sep/10/solar-panels-white-house

Jimmy Carter is a mystery to me. As president he was simply … well, weak. A small-time politician who was never up to the job of the presidency, but did the best he could under very, very trying circumstances. After Reagan whupped him in 1980, he left public life quietly and spent most of his time on operations like Habitat for Humanity. Then, many years later, he wigged out and became the aging moonbat we all know and laugh at. The personality change was so marked that it’s hard for me to believe the Carter of 1976-1980 and the Carter of today are the same guy. I’ve always wondered what happened to change him.

http://sd.solarmap.org/solar/
It's cool look at all those who have jumped in.