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Pit bull attack traumatizes senior; pet killed


Thursday, February 26th, 2009
Issue 09, Volume 13.
Andrea Verdin
Staff Writer


Two pit bulls broke into a 63-year-old woman’s home off of Almond Street on February 18, killing her small dog before dragging its body into the backyard.

According to witnesses, the pit bulls got out of a nearby yard, jumped over two four-foot-tall chain link fences and into the yard where the poodle-mix was located. Then, they followed the poodle into its home through a 10-inch-wide, one-foot-tall dog door.

Once inside, the dogs rummaged through the kitchen garbage container, then attacked the small dog, killed it and dragged it through the kitchen, living room and garage before pulling the body back outside.

"I knew [my dog] wouldn’t be around forever, but he was still full of life and spunk and had several good years left," said the owner, clearly distraught by the news of her pet’s death. "My dog was more than a pet; [he was] my sweet ‘little boy doggie,’ my constant companion, my reason to get up in the morning, my protector."

A 10-year-old neighbor discovered the scene; his mother called the Sheriff’s office and San Diego County Animal Control. She also contacted the dead dog’s owner at work and the pit bulls’ owner, who picked up his pets immediately.

The victim’s brother and boss entered the home to clean up the dog’s remains and found a "massacre."

"There was blood and feces everywhere," said the owner. "The carpet has been cleaned twice and the blood still wicks to the surface."

This was not the first time the pit bulls had gotten out of their yard and attacked a neighborhood animal.

San Diego County Animal Services Deputy Director Lauren Joniaux said a complaint was made last year against the same dogs after they attacked and seriously injured a goat in the neighborhood.

However, because the goat’s owner accepted monetary compensation for the animal, no charges were pressed against the pit bulls’ owner even though the goat had to be euthanized because of its injuries.

When the animal services representative arrived in response to the dog attack, they said the pit bulls could not be removed forcibly from their owner’s property because Advertisement
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there were no witnesses who would perform a citizen’s arrest, allowing Animal Services to act on the citizens’ behalf.

If the witness is not willing to press charges, said Joniaux, the case becomes a civil recourse and removes Animal Services’ ability to take action. If a citizen’s arrest is performed, Animal Services can take administrative action.

Joniaux said there is a significant amount of dog attack cases in which witnesses do not want to press charges, most times because the witness is afraid of some sort of retaliation from the accused individual.

She said another problem arises when the accused animal is not still on the premises after the incident and there are no witnesses to the attack.

"This can be frustrating for citizens who request an animal to be removed, and for us because we cannot enforce animal removal," said Joniaux. "If a dog injures or kills an animal, we try to take administrative action, but we need to have a witness."

"I’m not a vindictive person, but I’m certainly being pushed in ways I never imagined," said the victim, who said she would press charges if needed. "This scenario is like something you would read from a horror story."

In this case, the pit bulls were relinquished by their owner and euthanized by Animal Services.

Because the animals were relinquished, no charges were made against the owner, but the woman whose dog was killed still feels the pain of having lost her pet in such a traumatic way.

"My safety net is gone," she said. "Every noise I hear makes me jump. I keep looking out into the backyard to see if anyone or anything is there. I hate that feeling."

The pit bulls’ owner has yet to contact the victim with an apology, a note on her door or an offer of help with the expenses she has incurred. However, she is looking for a way to seek justice.

"Pet owners need to understand the importance of restraining their pets and obeying the laws," said the woman. "They need to understand the havoc they can wreak on someone’s life."


 

66 comments

Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #1 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:10 am
Good story, who is the owner? Let me guess.
Comment Profile Imageanonymous
Comment #2 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 am
I Think that the owner of the pitbulls should be arrested, he/she should've trained those dogs. I'm really sorry for the lady who lost her dog.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #3 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:51 am
Anonymous: I agree. Arrested, serve time than deported.
Comment Profile ImageKaren Jefferies
Comment #4 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:52 am
I am the lady who called the sheriff and animal control to pick up the dogs on the 18th of Oct. after they killed the goat, contrary to animal controls version of the event, they never came and the goat was not euthanized as she said, those dogs killed the goat as it was tied to a tether. The owner told the sheriff he would keep the dogs in, ya right! they were constantly running loose. They attacked another little dog at my house but the little dog is ok. What I am concerned about.... is there were 3 pitbulls not 2. Where is the other one???? What these dogs did is beyond horrible. Karen/almond street owner.
Comment Profile ImageTony
Comment #5 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:44 am
Wow what a preventable tragedy. I feel sad for the lady whose dog was killed.
The dog owners should be held accountable and put in jail especially since the dog’s behavior has been documented.
Can you imagine, if the victim was the ladies grandchild. Then what????
My insurance told me Pit-bull dogs owner are absolute liable in any attack regardless of degree.
Throw them in jail. No need fort 3 pit-bull din one house. Child protective services would be called in if children acted the way the dogs did.
Shame on you, pit-bull dog for not apologizing or consoling your damaged neighbor. Glad you are not my neighbor.
Comment Profile ImageFriend of the Victim
Comment #6 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:44 am
This is so sad, and was so unnecessary. People need to learn to be responsible for their actions (i.e. owning vicious animals!). What if the victim had been home? What would have happened if she got in the way of those dogs trying to save her own?? What if it had been a small child? There are just so many reasons the owners of those pit bulls should be watched closely. I'm sure he's already on the look out for new dogs. The victim is having to pay hundreds of dollars to repair the damage to her home, and they haven’t even offered a helping hand. That is just not the Fallbrook I remember growing up in.
Comment Profile Imagemom
Comment #7 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:29 pm
This could have been prevented if the dogs would have been taken away the first time this happened!
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #8 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:29 pm
She needs to be reimbursed by the negligent owner of the pitbulls.

It sounds like a 3 ring circus over there with goats, pitbulls and everything else though.
Comment Profile ImageShanon
Comment #9 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Ray you are a joke. Seriously
Comment Profile ImageKeith
Comment #10 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm
The sad thing is Ray is right. Seriously
Comment Profile Imagediana
Comment #11 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I really think that they should put the owner down as well. my prayers are with the victim
Comment Profile ImageMaria
Comment #12 | Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Ray - You're right on the money...any one else want to wager on who the owners are?
Comment Profile Imageconcerned
Comment #13 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I agree with Diana. The owner should have the same fate as the dogs. This breed of dog is a problem, especially when raised by an insane owner as pack animals. The owner should be arrested, serve a multiple year sentence, and ordered to pay restitution and punitive damages to the victim.

It is sickening. I don't care what anyone says about pit bulls. The breed should be exterminated completely. I don't care if you have a "sweet" one, they ALL turn on someone eventually.
Comment Profile Image:( that is sad
Comment #14 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
That is so sad that the dog had to die so early. And, if it hasn't been done already, put the dogs to sleep. I know it's sad to put animals to sleep, but if the dogs are a threat to the community I say put them to sleep
Comment Profile ImageChad
Comment #15 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
It's funny how this has turned racist. You don't think caucasians own pitbulls that attack? You are probably the same people that blame our economic woes on illegals rather than the irresponsible caucasians on Wall Street, Main Street, and in D.C.
Comment Profile ImageLisa Steel
Comment #16 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Too many macho people think it's a status symbol to have a pit bull. Isn't there a leash law? Maybe the poor lady is afraid of retaliation. It's time that law enforcement take the bull by the horns and force dog owners to be liable for any damages. Maybe the name of the dog owners should be published! Make them PAY.
Comment Profile ImageHmmm
Comment #17 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
To the dog owner who lost her dog due to those awful pitbulls...Take those neighbors to court..prosecute to the full extent!!! SHAME ON THEM!!! I know it doesnt help..but sorry for your loss.
Comment Profile ImageJackie H.
Comment #18 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Outlaw Pit Bulls and Illegals and Almond St will no longer be a ghetto
Comment Profile ImageGood Ray
Comment #19 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I won't wager on the owners ethnicity, but I'll bet all the money you want the dogs weren't Latino--they didn't take the microwave. Am I right, Ray?

I'm sure this is an anomaly, but I've noticed white people with pit bulls. What's up with that? Why I even read an article about the Minutemen taking pitbulls to a canyon where migrants live to chase them out. That must be the proper use of pitbulls.

It's only wrong if a pitbull attacks another dog, not migrants? That is one interesting view of the world.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #20 | Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm
A joke? please explain? Because it's the dog of choice amongst the hispanic community? I live in the barrio, do you?
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #21 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Having said all I did in my previous comments, I want to add that I also know of Pits owned by caucasians. Adult caucasians, no children in the households, and the dogs are very good to adult people. They do know from whence come their food and water and shelter. They aren't just dumb animals. But when two Pits are put together, the Pack mentality enters the picture. Usually with animals, horses for instance, it takes 3 for them to begin acting a little disobedient. There is a reason Pit Bulls are associated with the Hispanic culture; they are bred for fighting, wagering, fighting to the death. The same as the culture embraces bull-fights and cock-fights. For some reason, unknown to me personally, the business of aggression, blood and death is embraced by certain cultures. Rome had its collesium - gladiator fights and people thrown to lions, etc. I don't understand it, I don't embrace it, and quite frankly I don't imagine that Hispanic women embrace it, either. I see them being wonderful mothers to their little ones. It has to be a macho (male egocentric) thing. Just my opinion, not necessarily facts as were stated in my previous commentary.
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Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #22 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
The owner of the Pit Bulls is Eduardo Arteaga. He breeds and raises Pit Bulls in his yard on Almond St. His mother raises Chihuahuas to sell in the same house. Hers are indoors. His father, Rafael Arteaga, did raise fighting Cocks in the backyard and had big bonfire "parties" there until he moved his operation to the A&A Packing Shed and Avocado grove his parents own in DeLuz last year. You know, the one that was busted last fall???
When he was around, one could get "high" on the marijuana smoke just by walking past. We have pleaded with Sheriff and Animal Control to do something about the only 3 problem houses on Almond St., but they only say their hands are tied; they can do nothing legally about the dogs or the cockfights or the gangs or the illegals. Why can't they? All the rest of the 2 dozen law-abiding houses on the street pay lots of tax money for the privilege of living in San Diego County. Help is needed with speed control on Almond, also, but the County can't be bothered with that, either. Almond is just one little insignificant Street on the San Diego County map. How does your street in Fallbrook stack up?
Comment Profile ImageAnnonymous
Comment #23 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Sorry for using the word are too many times in a sentence. You all get the picture. Anyway, one more thing. Destroy that nasty breed.
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Comment Profile ImageAnnonymous
Comment #24 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I agree with Ray. Chad, check the statistics of those that are in prison and commit the most crimes. I need not say more. It is frustrating for us folks out there who are actually are humane and not violent or have to own animals that are or commit violent acts to try to prove themselves. Read the papers and watch the news.
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #25 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Before I acquired a new dog, I went by the Oceanside pound to look there first.

It was awful. Cage after cage of snarling, barking, abandoned pitbulls.

I hate those things.
Comment Profile ImageKen
Comment #26 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
We live in the morro hills part of Fallbrook and we have people walking their dogs OFF LEASH up here ALL the time. The lady up the street walks her two labs past our house and just lets them run into other peoples property. These dogs are really sweet but totally untrained and they jump on other people. We are really concerned that one day one of these dogs may knock jump on one of our kids or on my elderly father. If my elderly frail father gets knocked to the ground he may never be able to walk again.
I know this is a minor problem compared to a pack of vicious pitbulls but still. Our hearts and prayers go out to the poor women who must continue to reside in a neighborhood full of lowlifes who keep such animals
Comment Profile ImageShanon
Comment #27 | Sunday, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Yes Ray, I actually do thanks for asking.
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #28 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:57 am
Excuse me, Ken, but we on Almond do not live in a neighborhood of lowlifes. we live on a street of really good people. We have had lowlifes infiltrate 3 of our more than 2 dozen homes, but that can happen in your Morro Hills area, too. Be careful what you say. You try to figure out what you think you can do about it when it does happen, when the County and law enforcement tells you that neither they nor you can do a darn thing about it. Good luck on that one.
Comment Profile ImageTony
Comment #29 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:58 am
Ray you are right on again. Ann thanks for the info on the owners and their family and your piece.Chad and Good Ray get your heads out of the sand. What if this was your kid attacked? I assumed they were Latino too, based on the breed. Why have three? Can I assume they rent? They most likely have no insurance so they arte not concerted about any damages to anybody. This is the trend, no fear of retribution or compensation to the victims they harm.
I was denied adoption of a dog from the pound once because I had too many children under a certain age in my home, Even though my wife was a stay at home mom. So why do the authorities allow a breeds like Pitbulls to be left alone? Look at the pattern and the landlords should evict these people and allow the residents of Almond Street to liver in peace.
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #30 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:31 am
Tony, the owners didn't have 3 Pits, they had 4. They had them for the purpose of breeding and selling puppies. They now have only 1, a young female to start all over with. The other 3 have been put down. And, yes, they are the owners of the property; they are not renters. We can't assume we know what is going on in other people's houses. We need to know facts and not jump to conclusions. And, YES, it should be illegal to run a Pit Bull breeding business in the open back yard of a subdivision full of homes and families, but they are doing it and will continue to do it. An open back yard with only a 4' chain link fence that is easily climbed by the dogs should also not constitute a legal enclosure. And, no, even with a law-suit, compensation will not be made. One of their dead big trees fell on our garage last summer doing $1,200 worth of damage for which they also did not pay. Three years ago we had asked the owner/father, Rafael Arteaga, to take the tree down as we were fearful of it falling but he didn't think it was necessary. The Arteaga family seems to think they can do whatever they please and they seem to also get away with it. Because, yes, we all do fear retribution.
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #31 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:47 am
No one needs to wonder why the comments on an article like this run so high, when County and law enforcement say they will not do anything, and the other residents are fearful of retribution.

That is why it continues.

When I got my dog from a rescue, I had to have a home inspection and show that I had a 6' fence.

A 4' chain link fence is nothing to a motivated pitbull, nothing at all.

Untrained friendly breeds who are allowed to run off leash are obnoxious as well.

I wonder why the police can't do anything though.
Comment Profile ImageBoth side of the Fence
Comment #32 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:48 am
I knew the Pits Diego and Mary who commited the Horrific act. I had watched them be friendly and aggresive as they grew from puppies to maturity. I saw how they were aggresive to other dogs. I saw the fear they brought to other dogs as well as humans. It saddens me when any animal has to be put down, but that taste of blood never leaves them. They are by nature a "pack breed" as canines. Jack russell terrior, to bull Mastiffs...all by nature can and have attacked and or shown aggresion especially after tasting blood. My best friend has a pit bull/mix 2 yr old male who is full of love and energy, but when he is around other males he gets aggresive...put a female in the mix and he become territorile. I knew the Victim (Cockapoo)...man I still cry. My two dogs (shepard/mix females)and he had a good morning ritual every day for 3 years through the fence. It was a pleasure to watch. His mom is a wonderful person and has had her life ripped apart. Lets not throw racisims around. It really isn't the issue. Pet control is more the issue, back to the "Pack breed" that is our canine companion. Tony, I feel for you as there is just something about family life with a pet that is nice when you have the desire to be a "responsible" pet owner. In closing..I feel for the animals who are neglected by thier owners as the pits were...lets hope they never have children, but I feel for The lady (my friend)more who lost her best friend in all of this, and I thank God it wasn't one of my young nephews or my elderly frail father who might have been in our back yard tring to turn on our sprinklers, play, or try to stop the pits from going to the next yard. So lets let the healing begin and keep our eyes open to not be victims again. God bless our friend and her loyal companion. ~Amen
Comment Profile ImageTony
Comment #33 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Ann, sad to hear about your property damage. Did you file a claim with your homeowners who will go after your neighbor’s policy? Based on what you have said, I suspect they have no insurance coverage. Most homeowners policy will not afford coverage to a home with pit-bull. Insurance companies have reliable statistics that document pit-bull attacks. They know the likely hood of future attacks is very high so they exclude coverage or simply not provide coverage with household that have pit-bull. In California owners of Pit-bull are held strictly liable for any damage to another person, unlike other breeds. The only way to stop your neighbor from keeping these types of dogs from killing other pets and people is in his pocket book. Money is everything they know. Sue them separately or get the neighborhood to file suit against them. Stop them from killing other pets and people, and destroying your quality of life.
Both side of the fence, you have the best advice and attitude of us all. You also have a lot of insite on the dogs. Keep talking to people so they can get informed and stop this kind off act from happening again. I did purchase 2 dogs since I was denied adoption and they are wonderful part of my family.
What a shame for your neighborhood.
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #34 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Let the healing begin and keep eyes open so you're not victims again, you say?

That's premature thinking at best, since it's still a short fence and there is still a pitbull there.
Comment Profile ImageBarbara
Comment #35 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:07 pm
As the mother of the boy who discovered the scene, I can tell you there are many inaccuracies in the article. Not once did the reporter contact me or speak with me. I will say that both my mother and sister, who have made their own comments on this page, are the only ones that truly understand the horror of what has happened. The animal control agent that my mother intially spoke to told her "we can't just take the dogs. That would be like if you accidentally hit a kid with your car. We're not going to take your car away from you." What a hideous comparison! The next day, when animal control finally showed up to the scene, we were told there is only one animal control officer per 2000 sq miles. That is an outrage! I grieve for my neighbor and her blessed companion. The laws must be changed. I urge all animal lovers to take up this cause and write to our law makers so that this horrifying incident doesn't happen again and that my neighbors grief will not be in vain. Please begin with bill.horn@sdcounty.ca.gov
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #36 | Monday, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Barbara, I hope your 10 year old is ok after having to witness that. That incident had to have been traumatic for him as well.

What the animal control person said to your mother is outrageous too.
Comment Profile ImageBarbara
Comment #37 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:57 am
resident: Yes, my son cried and cried. He really liked the dog. He will be fine, fortunately. The scariest part was getting him out of the back yard while the pits were still there.
Comment Profile Imageanother note
Comment #38 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:57 am
I also wanted to comment that it is notable that the pit bull's owner took it upon himself to put his dog's down to sleep without being made to do it legally- pretty impressive given the fact that there are a lot of crazy dog owner's out there with crazy dogs that would not put their dogs to sleep on their own fruition.
Comment Profile ImageKathy in Denver
Comment #39 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:58 am
It sounds to me like all of you in Fallbrook need to band together on this issue. A mob of people working for a cause carries more weight than you might think, especially when the cause is a humane one. Look how the Civil Rights movement began. if all of you banned together as one united force, you stand a better chance of making the changes you are talking about happen. Pit Bulls are banned in the city of Denver because of this very issue and people did ban together to make the change.
Comment Profile Imagejust me
Comment #40 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:58 am
My family and I took in a stray dog that ended up nipping my 18 month old at the time (thank goodness it was only a nip) and I will never take in a stray again while having small children- that was stupid. Anyways, my point is, I called animal control to report this and they were here within the HOUR to take the dog away. I was very impressed. I noticed on this site that it took till the next day for animal control to respond to the pit bill scene- suprising considering how quick my response was. Priorities? Maybe it was because a child was involved. I am sick over what happened to this lady's dog. I go on walks often and Almond St. was one of the hills I'd go up sometimes- never again, especially because I have small children that I push in the jogger. I heard of a city that outlaws pit bulls- can't remember where- I think it is a good idea. Those dogs have something wrong in the head. My condolences to the people of Almond St.- not only for the lost dog, but for the self-centered, inconsiderate, awful neighbors they have.
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #41 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:24 am
Eduardo Arteaga did NOT volunteer to put the dogs down; the following day he was told to either surrender the dogs or face arrest on a felony charge of animal neglect by not keeping them under control. It was explained to him that this could be done in this particular case because there were witnesses who could testify to the facts. He chose to save his own skin, not go to jail, and not have to pay a fine and/or an attorney. He would never have surrendered the dogs under any other condition.
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Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #42 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:08 am
I did a "look up" of the animal control laws for the City of Denver, Colorado, and sure enough Pit Bulls are prohibited in that City. Ordinance Section 8-55 (b)(2).
"It shall be unlawful for any person to own, possess, keep, exercise control over, maintain, harbor, transport or sell within the city (of Denver, Colorado) any pit bull." Then it goes on to fully describe what constitutes a Pit Bull dog. It is quite an extensive ordinance. And the City of Denver has also made specific provision regarding the legality of other animals, snakes, etc. Only in California do we allow every other living creature to hold jurisdiction over the needs and safety of human beings. But then we also give better human rights to imprisoned law breakers than we give to ourselves. Go figure.
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #43 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:08 am
Ann, it is good that there are witnesses like you, who can correct misleading or out right false statements being made about this incident.

Was it the police who ended up enforcing the surrender of the dogs or was it animal control?
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #44 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 am
It was Animal Control. The Sheriff's officer who responded the night of the attack and who actually saw the interior of the damaged house, was quite specific about what he "wished" he could do, but stated he could not; his hands were tied by the law. The Animal Control officer who responded the following morning is the one who confronted the owner and took the dogs into custody. I do understand they were subsequently put down.
Comment Profile ImageTony
Comment #45 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:54 am
Ann, Oregon is now considering a measure that would require pit bull owners to maintain liability insurance, or face fines. See as mentioned earlier ,hit them in the poket book.
According to a summary of House Bill 2852, if the measure is passed, pit bull owners who fail to secure the proper liability insurance would be considered in violation of state law, which would be punishable by a maximum fine of $180. Courts also could order the dog's keeper to prove he or she is in compliance within a certain period of time. And failing to that could be punishable by a maximum fine of $720 per day. Additionally, the bill would make it a crime to maintain a dangerous dog, punishable by imprisonment, fine, or both.
Comment Profile ImageAnn
Comment #46 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:06 pm
As to my witness statements in these comments sections, as my name is in the open, if anything happens to me or my family or to any of our properties as a result of this - in other words, retribution - I hope the Sheriff's office will be more forthcoming in their ability to bring about justice ....
Comment Profile Imageanother note
Comment #47 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Ann- thank you for the clarification that he indeed did NOT put down the dogs voluntarily- I thought that seemed out of character. Thank you Ann for being forthright. I am a close neighbor of yours and understand the retribution thing. We have had instances come up too and we stood up and reported incidents to law enforcement. Unfortunately, in our case, law enforcement never followed through.
Comment Profile Imagemonica
Comment #48 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I'm feel so sorry for that poor woman and of course that poor poodle. I have dogs too and they are part of our family. Don't blame the Pit Bulls it's the owner's responsibile to train those dogs. This kind of thing really gives Pit Bulls a bad name.
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #49 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Ann, you are a brave woman and we need more like you.

Fear of retribution is a very intimidating factor in many incidents like this one.

Fallbrook needs more police presence.....daytime AND night time.

Fallbrook needs police that arrive in a timely manner and are in evidence daily in the high crime areas.

The populace knows where these are.

We need the police to be there, too.
Comment Profile ImageFBK Resisident
Comment #50 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I'm shocked because I live a few block away from Almond St. and I have no pets but I do have young children and I think what if instead this poor poodle it could be a kid too ... and that's very scary.
Authorities need to take an action after something like this happens and owners regarless of their nationality need to be responsables for their pet's actions if they can't controle and keep them away then Owners need to be held responsables for the consecuencies and need to be mandatory to put to slep teh dogs after an attack because it could be a child instead of another pet ... I'm very sorry for the lost of the 63 yr old woman's pet.
Comment Profile ImageLee
Comment #51 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:13 pm
My heart aches for the poor victim; however, that will not bring her companion back. The laws in this state need to change -- outlawing pit bulls -- just like the state of New York did a few years ago. California needs to follow suit! How do we get this option to the polls?
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #52 | Tuesday, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:32 pm
It is hard to decide what is the worst part of this story.

Remember, these pitbulls went INTO HER HOUSE.

It could have been the lady who lived there who was killed, or the boy who found the scene.
Comment Profile Imageparent of 3
Comment #53 | Wednesday, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:25 pm
How scary and sad. This could have been prevented if the owners of those dogs took responsibility. If he is breeding these dogs he knows of the temperament and character of the breed. He is so neglectful that it’s unbelievable. What are we waiting for? Some child to be killed before action is taken. Good the dogs were put down. The dog owner should now have to forfeit his right to own any more dogs in the future. Sort like the sex offender needs to report his actions so should the dog owner. People are at risk living near him. It appears the owner does not give a darn. He knows he can get away with it. He needs to be reminded of his negligence daily to prevent this from happening again. I bet his entire neighborhood is nervous of walking by his home. If he attempts any retribution against Ann, He has many witnesses for Ann he will have to overcome. Take his picture and put it in the village news as irresponsible.
Comment Profile Imageonce again
Comment #54 | Wednesday, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Once again the authorities find a loophole .
Cant arrest if no charges filed.
Our government only wants to arrest and fine those that can pay monetarily.
Comment Profile Imagefriend
Comment #55 | Thursday, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 pm
It has been over a week since this horrific attack. The owner of the pit bulls still has not apologized or offered any monetary help. He needs to be a MAN and take responisibity for HIS actions, right now he is just a WHIMP!
Comment Profile ImageKathy in Denver
Comment #56 | Monday, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:26 am
To get the changes made for your community, start by getting a lobbyist to work on your behalf. Write to your congressman as a united force. Get petitions signed. And, by all means, get your voices heard in the media. The louder you all are the more attention, sympathy abd support you will gain. There are so many more people out ther in the world that agree with your cause that are silent because they don't know what to do. Get them making noise and help their voices to be heard. Don't let the few overrun the many.
Comment Profile ImageKaren
Comment #57 | Tuesday, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Ann, you and I know what it is like on Almond, we have both lived there long enough. I loved my little house with the big yard full of beautiful trees but I could not take the family on either side of me anymore. Two weeks ago, gun shots were fired into the yard of the pittbull owners striking their car, not once but twice. What is going on over there? The sheriff should park on the street and meet his quotas for everything in one setting. I am so sorry for the elderly ladies that live on Almond, they are freightened and yet cannot move. Karen
Comment Profile Imagecarmen miranda
Comment #58 | Thursday, May 7, 2009 at 9:12 am
Last Sunday May 3rd, as i drove my son back to College in Fullerton, i received a horrifying call from my 25 year old daughter: "Mom its Missy he was attacked by a pittbull" "Mom please hurry home" "he is dying" As i drove back to my city Downey, I contacted Animal control, Paramedics and Downey Police Department. I was so distraught, i got lost on the way home. I came home to find neighbors, Animal Control and the Police Department helplessly looking at Missy. I yelled out his name, and he did not respond. The owner who had the pittbull on a leash, ran off. My daughter did not chase after them, opting to stay back with Missy. Is there anyone out there that can help me or guide me? Missy greeted me for 14 years, jumping into my car, looking for his everyday treat. He slept in my arms wrapped around my neck for fourteen years. His ashes will be ready today. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME, ITS NOT FAIR. HAD SHE STAYED AROUND OR CAME BACK I WOULD HUMBLE MY SOUL. AND NOT BE SO GRIEF STRICKEN. MISSY IS UNREPLACEABLE, ITS NOT RIGHT. PLEASE EMAIL ME, GIVE ME LEGAL ADVISE SOMEONE PLEASE. QUBNMOM@AOL.COM
Comment Profile ImageVikki
Comment #59 | Wednesday, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:23 am
I have been reading all the comments and it has slowly went from heart felt feelings for the victim to lets kill all pit bulls and their owners also. Where I live is horse country and we do have problems with pit bulls off leash on the trails sometimes. I personally own a pit bull, a Keeshound, a Welsh Corgi and a Tennessee Walker Hound. My dogs are not allowed out of my backyard. They don't go on trail with me and my horses. I own and operated a 85 horse boarding facility. My pit bull stays behind a 6 foot chain link fenced patio and only is allowed to go into the back yard with me or my husband. We have no children and 5 cats, a few ducks and chickens. My pit bull is not allowed to be around these animals because I know what would happen. I don't have anything to prove and if I did I would not use my dog to do it. And yes I am white.
I love my Rufus and would not like to see the breed distroyed. I would like stronger laws that can be enforced.
Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit bull owner
Comment #60 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Ban the deed not the breed!!! I have owned and bred American Pit bulls for over 15 years now. I no longer breed because of owners like this and as one person commented, just go to your local shelter and see the majority breed. This is due to backyard breeding of inbred poor quality dogs and wrong motives (money & fighting) I won't even get into the ignorant comment that it is an "anomaly" for caucasians to own pits. The breed was developed in America. They are the all American dog. This dog was bred to be the ultimate dog, a champion of champions, they excel at every sport. Once dubbed "the babysitter" not baby killer. Just research the breed and do your homework. Dogs like Petey from Our Gang / The little Rascals. During WWI do you know which dog represented America? - The American Pit Bull!!!! This is NOT a Mexican breed of dog and has become the GANGBANGER (mexican, black, or whiteboy) dog of choice, because they think that it is a representation of their toughness...when they are all just scared little boys!!! Don't ever fear retaliation- Stand up for your God given rights as an American and let Him protect you. "In God WE Trust" I do own (3) 80lb American Pit bulls and they run loose with chickens & chicks, cats & kittens, horses & foals, ducks & ducklings, OH... and now while all of you GASP... (2) small kids 5 and 7!!! When bitten by a family members small "tame" dog, do you know what my child asked for when crying?? Her 80lb pit bull!!!! My dogs have never attacked any animal or person in my 15 + years of being an owner. I AM a responsible dog owner and I am proud to be an American and proud to own the best dog you could find, the AMERICAN Pit bull !!! If it is not your breed of choice fine, but don't ban the breed ban the deed...my dogs are my family and I would have 2 very heartbroken kids if I told them we had to get rid of their best friends just because they are pit bulls. http://hubpages.com/hub/Famous_Pit_Bulls
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Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit Bull owner
Comment #61 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:58 pm
http://www.forpitssake.org/american.html

Pit Bulls were once a sign of pride and dignity of the United States, which is why they were used in these propaganda campaigns. Their never-quit attitude that was represented by the breed, was a statement the United States sent around the world. These dogs were once loved and cherished, the only thing that has changed is people. < a quote from this link: http://defendpitbulls.com/pit-bull-history/u-s-wwi-posters
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Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit Bull owner
Comment #62 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:00 pm
http://pitbullextreme.com/pit-bull-history/wwi-pit-bull-propaganda-poster/

This WW1 poster is the best!
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Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit Bull owner
Comment #63 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I have to toot our own horn too...our dogs are gorgeous!!!! The "pit bull" you see now is an ugly, inbred, short, bowlegged, conformationally incorrect representation of the breed. No wonder they are called monsters!!! Not what you saw years ago before they got in the hands of the Gangbangers...well c'mon - ya know, they do say dogs resemble their owners! Just stating the facts!
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Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit Bulll owner
Comment #64 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Vicki #59: I think it is a shame you separate your dog instead of integrate and train. "My pit bull is not allowed to be around these animals because I know what would happen." wow seriously! You only add to the fear factor when you do that.

concerned #13, anonymous #23&24 and resident #25 (and everyone else with their mentality): you are all sickos "Destroy them"... it is an animal, it does not think like a human it only knows what it is trained. Blame the people not the dog, it is not like we are talking about a human who knows right from wrong. Poor animals, they don't choose who raises and trains them. you are sick...probably Hitler supporters too.

Jackie H. #18 : Wrong! and BTW many a meximerican (legals) own pits for the wrong reason. Quit being so ignorant, honestly people, it is the legals not illegals who are cocky and arrogant and tote a pit bull in one hand and a gun in the other selling drugs for a living.

Kathy in Denver #39&56 : Mind your business and stay the heck out of California you dumb woman!

Monica #48 : right on! You are the only person with some brains on this message post!
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Comment Profile Image12 yr Fallbrook res Pit Bull owner
Comment #65 | Monday, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I must add that I have had to press charges against my next door neighbor because their 2 untrained pits came over my 6 foot fence and attacked my chickens (killed 3) but as a nice neighbor I just warned them to contain their dogs (this first time) then recently (after the dogs have been impounded for running away and bailed out 3 times!!) they came over and attacked my horses and one had my cat in it's mouth when I caught it!!! Kitty is ok :) Horses too :) little traumatized though :( So I brought the dog back to them...big mistake!! They basically said "kiss off" and what are you gonna do about it and so we pressed charges. They will now pay a fine but the dogs still run at large...Animal Control gave the same run around to us and said they could not remove the dogs. You know what? The system has failed us.

BTW They are Mexicans and don't give a darn that I pray for my children as the female paces the fence and growls at them- yup they are planning to breed her. AC allowed them to pay a $400+ fine just to bail her out un spayed. They should at least force the spay on a repeat offender such as this. Again, the system has failed. I have been told by AC that I can put a slug in their dog's head if they come over again...poor animals, in the wrong hands, with a law that makes no sense. I don't blame these dogs and I certainly don't blame the breed.

When asked by a veteran 24 years on the SWAT SDPD if I was ever gonna breed again, I told him "not enough quality homes for these dogs" He said he routinely had to "take out" 3-5 of this breed at a time on a drug sting. He said in all his years on and off the force he had never seen such well behaved quality dogs in any breed. Our dogs have changed the minds of many a pitbullphobs. He understood and said if we ever did breed again one day to let him know, he wanted one! He was a caucasian American...some anomaly, huh?
Comment Profile Imagegrove owner#1
Comment #66 | Tuesday, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:59 am
Hi--I am upset that my grove is apparently broken into multiple times by illegal residents at a Packing house owned by Rafael A. I understand from reading this column, that the Sheriff has done little to crack down on the illegal activity in town and out at this packing house, since they have said they need probable cause to go out and look for stolen avocados.

Isn't it time that the Sheriff acts more proactively on agricultural thefts in our community? I wonder how many others in Fallbrook have similar incidents (reported and unreported) of avocado theft, and what actually did the Sheriff do? In my case, nothing, although I have now made 4 reports this year.

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