Thank you, Village News, for once again providing the best coverage of happenings in our area. You were awesome during the fires last year, and again during this horrible situation. Our thoughts go to the family of this poor woman.

Why put his employer in this story at all When they were voted The Number ONE AAA contract Station of the year in Sothern California nothing even mentioned in your paper but a wanted man and you involve a man and his business that has served Fallbrook for more than 20 years. And for what purpose this sick individual could have worked any where. Soiling the name of this business by the mention of it for having employed this guy served no purpose other than to give people a place to look now with is a disgust because of one person who worked there.

This story is a tragedy and I feel for the grandkids that are in the middle. Our prayers are for them and the grandmother.

My thoughts go to family of this 74 year old grandmother.

“Fallbrook is great but things happen everywhere”. I don’t care if criminal activity happens everywhere I don’t want it to happen here to anyone of us or your family.
Detectives and Fallbrook Sheriff's thanks for you hard work.

Hey Driver, Why not put his employer in the story. I'm sure Ron Neeley didn't know he hired a potential murderer. Some may be interested in what the freak did for a living. You know, like where have I seen that ugly mug before? Good job reporting as usual Deb.

I don't think anyone in their right mind will look upon this loser's former employer with any ill will...calm down, Driver, the reporter is just doing her job!

great coverage on such a sad story......and by the way driver, who cares where this idiot worked, i hope he wasn't the one they found dead in Riverside County....he needs to face what hes done and not take the easy way out

when people like that off themselves, it saves us $$$

I am calm just thought it odd that the Village News was the only source that gave that information. And yes What some may want to know what he did for a living but now there are going to be questions for the other employees who he worked with that now have deal with the situation of loosing a friend and what he did and they themselves don't have answers to what had happened.

I have known Jeff Nolan for 10+ years. I have always known him to avoid conflict. Jeff was an extremely hard worker, always up for a laugh, and LOVED his boys. What happened to the grandmother is inexcusable, but the actual truth in this story lies with a man that is now dead. My thoughts go out to ALL the families affected by this terrible tragedy.

they did find Nolen, deceased, in his vehicle in Riverside. look at the Riverside Coutny Sheriff Dept's page, under coroner's press releases. they have identified him. Thank Goodness for that too, he is not wandering around, his whereabouts unknown!

I have also known Jeff for over 10 years and agree with friend. Calling him names now he is dead does no one any good and just shows Fan and Customers narrowmindedness. Do you ever think that there may be more to a story than is printed? If so I have a copy of "Mein Kampf" to loan you

Driver-it's part of living in a small town. people like to talk. it'll blow over. answer questions as best you as you can.

I knew Jeff years ago he was fairly quiet and a regular guy its sad that life had drug him down to this kind of end.I pray for his soul and his kids they are the ones who end up on the short end of whatever really happened.

Whoa that guy lived like a block away from me and that house always seemed strange. That guy was a maniac driving that tow truck through residental neighborhoods. Whenever i heard his tow truck coming down the street I made sure to get out of the way.

another methed up person. see what drugs can do???

Skippy Jeff Nolan was the most praised driver while employed here. By the people here serviced. He was efficient and often requested by customers. As for him driving fast in residential areas at least in his own because I to live with in a block of him is a false statement he wouldn't because he had kids and cared about the other people on the road thats why he did his job so well. It's just to bad that he didn't reach out for help because there was and is a group of people who would have done what was neccasary to have this horrible chain of events fom ever happening. But we all have our own lives and problems and now we must move forward and pray for his three boys and daughter he has left behind. As well as Amy and her family keep praying and hope for the best for them all. And someday this can be behind us all.

i am embarrassed for the people of fallbrook and the narrowminded take of this tragedy.i worked at ron neeleys with jeff for several years and have never known a kinder or more helpful guy than him.how many of you kneejerkers can say the same.ron neeley deserves better than the guilt by association he is getting here.i love and respect ron neeley.i worked for him for 5 years and he was and is the best.please let jeff rest in peace.i will even give my real name.i got nothing to hide g to hide.andy johnson

Driver...It is Fallbrook Newspapers job to inform us whats going on around Fallbrook..we live here, we have a right to know...just because one person made a bad decision, doesnt mean that it makes the whole company look bad! I am sorry you have to deal with the loss of a friend and are having to answer all kinds of questions, but thats just life!! I do feel for his kids...they are the ones that are truly having to deal with the most, and they never asked for any of this....

I don't feel bad for this LOSER!!!! What he and his partner (wife/girlfriend..??) did to this woman was very sick minded and the sad part about this is that the children have to suffer, however maybe the children are better off where there are now. Very sad story.

Hey Skippy, That he continued to drive reckless was more or less your own fault. You should have complained about it the first time it happened. You only encouraged it's continuance by saying nothing until after he is dead. your comment is kind of pointless now isn' it????

i've complained about out of control dope addicts and just received retribution. some can be dangerous...yer cool skippy.

I'm not saying we as a community don't deserve to be informed what is going on in it just simply that like all the other sources of news thais could have been written or told as they did it that Jeff was a Tow Truck driver. That said it didn't so we move on and deal with what may come as best we can hoping that people will consider what they say before speaking or asking about Jeff or this tradgidy. Simply because there are people that are having a difficult time with it. And a comment such as some of the ones written here may not go over very well. What Jeff did is unforgiveable but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good father , friend or employee before he came to this dark place that brought on the end of 2 lives and damaged many more.

it's interesting some people have classified this guy as a good father. good fathers don't do illegal drugs because it impairs their ability to keep their children safe. good fathers don't screw up their lives like this and leave their children to fend for themselves in the county system. good father? i don't think so. i feel sorry for these children and hope they're aren't more "good fathers" like this in your circle of friends.

Who said that Jeff killed her? His girlfriend could have done it because after all, she was the abuser and related to the woman who was killed. Did you ever think that he might have killed himself because in a drugged up stupor he did not stop his girlfriend from killing the grandmother? Perhaps he could not live with the guilt and so he killed himself. He may have slipped off into a terrible lifestyle with drugs, but that does not make him a killer.

I too knew Jeff, (but only through his work). He was always an excellent driver, respectful human being, and quiet man. He was not the kind of man who would kill anyone.

Please stop saying he did it. He is not here to defend himself and the only one that is left is the sicko girlfriend. OF COURSE she is going to say he did it!! She does not want to rot in jail, so she will say whatever she needs to so she can save her backside. Honor him for the truth in who he was and stop condemning him for the speculation you have about the end of his life.

I am so very sorry my son brought such disgrace to your town. I only wish he had been able to cast off his demons before he did what he did. How many buttons need to be pushed before one snaps? He had been heading for a breakdown for a long time.You work, on call, 24/6 and sometimes 7 for 3 years without a break and see if you can handle it! Oh, and when all of you fine residents of Fallbrook were told to evacuate, Jeff and another driver kept Neeley Towing open to anyone who may have needed their assistance. That was the kind of man he was. He handled his demons as long as he could....he snapped...and now, everyone loses...my grandchildren most of all. I only wish that before some of you make those awful, hurtful comments, you could walk a mile in the shoes of those you condemn. I ask you this, "are you absolutely sure it was Jeff who killed Amy's grandmother?"

SOME OF YOU ARE SICK! You do NOT know what happened and you are spouting off your opinions! Why not wait for the REAL TRUTH to come out BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT ON SOMEONE YOU DO NOT KNOW!! God help the majority of you ignorant, gossiping, have nothing better to do "people"- GO GET LIVES- start by keeping your high and mighty opinions to yourselves till you are sure of the FACTS!- pray for them all! It can happen to ANY FAMILY- This is a MAN that waved everytime he drove by with a smile on his face- AND NEVER raced down the street- EVER! Look in your own homes and families before you condemn someone else- thanks for the ear. And God Bless them all- it is a tragedy, not a gossip column... most should be ashamed of your writing! thank you

dear jeff's mom. sorry for your loss. maybe it is unhealthy for you to read these comments that everyone has a right to make. take care of the ones that are left, mom.
to other moms-when your son looks like he needs some help, don't wait too long...

Being hooked on drugs cannot excuse Jeff in any way for what he did. It is the worst sort of crime imaginable. Though I do know that he had been "CLEAN" for the last few years. Circumstances which he believed beyond his control got him hooked once again. Again this is no excuse for his actions. There is more to this story than the media are putting out. Ever notice that they only publish the sensational part of a story? We are only told what happened, not why it may have happened? Probably because the rest of the story wasn't juicy enough for the reporter to spend his/her time on. Just remember if these journalists ( and I use that term very loosely) ever decide to get off their butts and do some honest research before sending their stories to print things may appear different than first thought. If the story does not instill fear and panic and loathing in the public, it does not get printed. If the story does not contain “SEX”, “VIOLENCE”, “DRUGS”, or MONEY” it is considered un-newsworthy. I challenge the reporter(s) who covered(?) this story to delve deeper and write the “WHOLE” story not just what causes a sensation. If he/she is dedicated to telling the truth ( as we are so often reminded) then tell the whole truth and not just a portion of it.
I have noticed that most of the comments on the sites are quick to condemn and the persons making the comments so very full of their own self rightcheousness. Some of those who knew Jeff have posted here and on other sites trying to tell you the kind of person Jeff was. Those of you who did not know him are to busy with your own condemnation and self importance to even care. Then again that’s just the typical mob mentality. Just like a mindless herd of sheep you will follow the one in front right into the slaughter house and not realise your mistake till it’s to late. Those of you who have already condemned Jeff without a trial will never have to guts to stand up and say “I was wrong” if things turn out to be the opposite of what was reported. As these sites allow anonymity because most of you are gutless carrion who prey on the weak and defenseless as long as no-one knows who you are. I am proud to have known Jeff. We played paintball together, laughed, joked, I have spent pleasant times with him and his children. I am saddened by his death. What he did ( if it turns out true once the investigation is complete) is inexcusable and nothing will turn the clock back. Jeff’s family are going through the torments of hell just now, partly because of what he apparently did and partly because of the inane and vicious comments on this and other sites based on minimal information. What happens next time if it is someone who is close to "YOU" who does something like this? We all say "it can never happen in my family" but it does again and again. So if/when you are placed in the position of having a friend or family member commit an act of this kind, just remember your posts and what you wrote about this issue!
I am sure that you will not have a problem reading comments similar to yours written about your family!

Pershaps he didn't kill the grandmother. And whether or not he was hopped up on demons, he still turned his back on the kids and ran like a chicken. That's the kind of man he seemed to be. Sorry to be hurtful but this whole thing hurts. It's gone from a murder/suicide to a tow-yard scandal. I'm over it. Leave our "fine residents" alone.

"Step dad' is pretty smart. He said "Just like a mindless herd of sheep you will follow the one in front right into the slaughter house and not realise your mistake till it’s to late." Guess he is realizing his mistake in not extending a helping hand to his stepson. It's understandable he is mad at the world over his own nearsightedness.

To Jeff's Mom~I am so sorry for your loss. As I commented above, I knew Jeff for 13yrs. He worked hard, and certainly tried to do his best. A few hateful comments on here will never outweigh all the people that thought so highly of him. He will be missed by many.
~Tasha V.

did i miss something? did the story contain sex? you guys need to go through a normal greiving process. stay away from the mindless herd.

my heart goes out for the children. here is what was just reported to the press enterpise.......

Prosecutor: Man admits killing girlfriend's grandma in suicide note
4:40 PM Tue, Sep 09, 2008

Posted by: PE News

A San Diego County prosecutor says a man confessed in a suicide note to killing his girlfriend's grandmother.

Deputy District Attorney Keith Watanabe (wat-uh-NAH-bee) says 38-year-old Jeff Nolen admitted strangling Shirley Beggs, who was in her 70s. Her body was found Sept. 4 at her Fallbrook home underneath a bookcase that authorities said appeared to be used to hide her body.

Beggs' granddaughter, Amy Jo Mitchell, was arrested on suspicion of financial elder abuse. Investigators say Mitchell has since been released from jail pending further investigation.

Nolen's body was found in his sport utility vehicle in Calimesa in neighboring Riverside County. Authorities have not determined Nolen's cause of death.

See, stepdad, when i read andy johnson's post, i'm like, i hope this isnt the andy i know. it makes a difference somehow and now i dont look at him the same. its better when you dont know who is posting exactly. I dont want you to think im as mean as i sound. i do want to sound my opinon however, as well as hear others. its a normal thing to do in this century, if you havent noticed and dont get all bible over this forum. if people want to be nice and thoughtful they should send nice cards and sign their real names. why not let people use this as a way to express how they really feel. i dont think we're all suppose to feel the same.

I just watched the six oclock news were they talked about how he confessed to a family member and then took his life away. In this article they talked about how his death is marked "suspicious" not a homicide or suicide. So why now, all of a sudden does a family member come forward and say's he confessed to them about killing her and then supposevly took his life away. The way i see it is she knows shes screwed, so she had a famiy member come forward and say that. I'm not sure if i understand how she's only getting charged for Financial elderly abuse. It just seems like she knows more to this story and maybe had something to do with it, if not then she had to have know about it. For her just to go pull out 72 thousand dollars and close grandma's bank account seems like she knows more to this.

It isn't enough for you people to pass judgement on Jeff now there are those who are taking shots at his family. Your cowards for this Jeff's family and friends don't need or deserve your WONDERFUL point of view. I can only pray for the family and wish them the best. And sit and wait till the facts are all out so there can be no speculation. To Jeff's parents I am truly sorry for your loss. I can't imagine your pain cause this is a truly trying time for the friends that Jeff had and it's not getting easier. No thanks to the simple minded people and their thoughtless comments.

No "You are what you write" I am not mad at the world. If you had spent time and read my post you will notice that, all I am mad at are the ones like yourself only look at the surface and start screaming "The sky is falling". Also if you look you will notice that I do not excuse Jeff's situation as an excuse for what he did. As for not extending a helping hand, you are probably not interested to know who got him and his girlfriend out of a rundown trailer and no job to an apartment and then into a house. When he needed help he knew where to go and was doing well and had got himself clean, but I guess you just skipped over that part. As I typed just another mindless sheep following the herd!

Jeff was a regular customer of mine at a business I owned next to his work. Coincidentally, he responded to a AAA call at my house just 4 days before his death. How happy I was to see him, as I knew he was one of the most dependable, hard working and thoughtful employees there. I would like his family to know that in the 4 years I've known him, he has always been a gentle soul, respectful, kind, considerate. I will pray for his parents and his children, and hope many others will do the same.

I knew Nolen and his girl before, while he drove a tow truck. The couple were not a perfect couple yet under the circumstances that we all are facing now too, they, unfortunately took the wrong route. They have 3 precious children. Thats too bad that he took the easy way out a way out that has its consequences. Debt obviously controlled his actions and yes! there is no excuse for it in any way whatsoever; let this b a lesson to all. If in debt, then so what if you loose ur car, so what if u even loose your house, and so what if u owe the world, as long as God gives me, you and grandma another day to breath that is all that matters. don't let your debt kill u or others, instead step up the plate and thank God for the little or much you have and breath, eat, enjoy ur family and never stop dreaming for better times.


peace.

my opinion where do you get ur facts?

sorry mom of jeff. so he really stayed behind during the fires to help people? you mean like a real fireman? wow. i take back all by bad thoughts about him. cant you come up with something better than that? at first i thought you were sincere about what your son had done. your sarcasm is contagious. what about the mom of your grandkids? was she never a good person. let's hear something nice about amy

To Jeff's family, co-workers, and friends, I send my heartfelt prayers and thoughts. Your pain must be unimaginable. No one asks for this kind of tragedy in their lives. My greatest sorrow is for his children. Now, to his family.....do yourself a huge favor though and don't read any more of these comments.

Anyone who knew Jeff would only feel sympathy and sorrow for him. Even if he did confess to her murder, his suicide obviously shows that the act destroyed him. He was a quiet man, a good worker, and must have been a troubled man as well. There will never be any explaining what happened except drugs.

To the rest of you who don't know Jeff, please leave him alone. Show his family the grace and love that the Lord wants us all to share with one another. What good does it do to trash him? I do not understand how you are benefiting from tearing Jeff and his family apart? What are you getting from that? Does it make you feel important and special?

I do not understand cruel reactions that I have read hear at all. The only reason people would right such vicious comments is if they are getting a satisfied feeling from their diatribes. I fear that is a little sicko too, and someday you will overreact and do something like this too. You are truly scary people.

...white trash?
to friends, aquaintances, neighbors, drivers, mom, stepdad: okay we're sickos, rushing to judge. my advice for future: when you see your friends (like jeff & amy jo) in trouble, maybe you should reach out to help in some way. do what you can to help your friends before it's too late and all you have left to say is "he was such a good guy and worker and dad and... blah...blah... blah...
intervene and save a life or two.

amen

Do you seriously think that everyone that knew him was NOT trying to help him? Come on, I am only requesting that you be fair. If you have never been around it before, working with an addict is difficult at best. You can try your hardest, beat your head against a wall, love them, tough-love them, but it is nearly impossible to turn them around. That does not mean you stop trying or give up on them. Do not be so foolish to think people were not trying to reach him and help him.

think about it, maybe you were not the right one to help. beating your head against the wall? come on now. when i started down that road, my mom and family took my kids from me, called the cops and stalked me til they found my dealer. my mom always said "you're a mom till you die. you do whatever it takes. my mom and family saved my life.

If someone in my employ ever makes a freakish change in their appearance and has a history of drug taking, I don't care how wonderful he is, I might just spring a drug test on him.

It's amazing that so much is said about the young man involved in this very, very sad story. It almost seems everyone has forgotten to comment about "Grandma". I feel it necessary to remind everyone about this poor Grandmother who has been lost. I know her family and some of the tragedies that she endured, including the loss of her husband of more than 50 years last year, her own mother earlier this year, 2 daughters at early ages and another granddaughter killed in a freak car accident with her 7 month old son in a car seat. He is a fine young man of 15 now, but he lost his mother and grandmother before he was 6. His great-great grandmother died earlier this year and now his grandmother in horrific circumstances. Mrs. Beggs has another daughter, grandkids and sister who will live each day wondering how their loved one suffered at the end and wishing they could turn back time. We all wish we could, to say "if only..." maybe circumstances would have been different. My heart goes out to the family I know as well as the young man's family who is also suffering from the loss of someone they loved. God Bless you all.

I am very sad for Ms. Beggs who has been part of a very sad family for many years. No one deserves to be brutally murdered. This tragedy started many years ago. The Shakespearian line, "OH what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive" fits Amy Jo's own family. I am sorry for Mr. Nolan who has lost his life. I am sorry for all the family members related to Amy Jo, who will have to learn just who she has become. People make choices, sad as that may be, and choices have consequences. The consequences of this event will have to be born by all of Amy Jo's children and the other members of her family. This is too sad for words.

I agree with "Driver" in that the name of Jeff Nolens employer should not have been included in the article. I know that I personally feel sick every time I see a Neeley tow truck now and that specific name/company will now be a constant reminder of what happened every time I see it.

I expected to see a myriad of comments on a tradgedy such as this but why is anyone blaming Jeff's family for the choices he made? He was a grown man. Im pretty sure most parents dont monitor their 38 year olds. You can really only help those who want to be helped anyway. We live in a society full of resources...its up to adults to utilize the resources for themselves. It should not fall on their family to oversee every aspect of their life. Nothing wrong with expressing yourself on here but be reasonable.

I was very close to Amy's sister, Amy and her family growing-up. I even knew their Grandmother. What a strong vibrant woman she was. Looking at them now, you would have never guessed that Amy, and her sister and brother had such a normal life and fun-loving family when we were all young kids. Its scary how things can change so fast and how it can happen to ANY family. I was there when their stable family life started falling apart after the divorce of their parents. Now most kids fair just fine after a divorce, but a few short years later I was there to see drugs poison many of them. Drugs continued to have a relentless death grip for many many years! Drugs twisted, warped and changed the people I knew. It saddens me deeply. If any of you know or even suspect drug use among your own loved ones, do something about it before it's too late!

I didn't notice any blame on his family. They left themselves wide-open to comment by posting in the first place. It is "reasonable" when someone is about to "snap" as mom put it, that someone step in or up. No, we don't all have mommies and daddies, but we i hope, live in a society of caring individuals that might notice someone who needs help.

For anyone that knows Amy Joe, I am curious if she is thin, has long blonde hair and three beautiful boys? I met her last summer when our children were both in swimming lessons and I was curious if that was her.

Yes Curious, Amy is thin, blond and has three boys. It is interesting that we haven't heard anything in the news about her arraignment which was suppose to take place on Tuesday. I also want to know more about the "suspicious" death of Jeff Nolan.

As I have read the comments here all I can do is wonder is there more that could have been done. For those who think that there wern't people who reached out to Jeff your wrong. But when a grown man tells you he's okay and that the problems at home aren't that bad you don't push the issue he already has enough to deal with.and to add to it by being pushy getting into a mans personal life that he obviously doesn't want you involved in. And for me at least I had only known Jeff 3 years and was one of only a few people he even discussed anything outside of work about his personal life. So there was so much I did not know. So I personally never pressed to hard to talk more than he wished to. Because I would not want anyone prying in my business if I didn't ask for their opinion. There are others to that Jeff had Around him that he confided in as well but not to the extent that any of us saw anything like this coming Yet everyday we find ourselves wondering if there was more that we could have done to have helped him in the last few days of his life. But all the way up until the last weekend he worked he was still doing his job and he didn't give any reason to believe that such a horrible thing had gone on in his life. Or I and others would have done more to help our friend in his time of need but you all don't have to carry that so it seems pretty easy to say you would have done more for your friend. I pray your never in such a situation to feel what I do wondering everyday what if because I know that he had good people that he called friends that did't see this coming. And they should not be second guessed about the fact if they could have done more for Jeff. They already feel bad enough as it is and don't need anyone who did'nt have first hand knowledge of Jeffs life casting doubt if they too weren't there to reach out to him you can say you would have done whatever it takes but you wern't involed so you can only speculate. And you have your opinion but they are just that yours. And like I said before I hope you never have to deal with such a tradgidy like this and have people doubting your caracter because you didn't do more.

Just wondering if Jeff's Mom can let us know how the kids are? I know the middle one has some learning issues and we are concerned for him. We are just hoping they are in familys care, and someone is aware of the middle ones issues.My kids went to the same school as Amy and Jeffs and I use to watch both of them with their boys and they seemed like good parents. I would just like to know the boys are Ok.

Good parents? Get serious. He killed an elderly women and she was arrested for financial abuse of an elderly. These were NOT good parents.

Yes, I would like to bring this all back to Shirley! She was such a beautiful, funny woman. She had been through hell and wanted every day to be with Harold. Well Shirley, you are now with your love and can rest without pain now...physical or mental. You touched the people who were blessed with the opportunity to listen and learn from you. You were loved are loved very much so by my family and myself and we miss you. We are sorry you were so horribly taken from this earth and we just hope that the real story surfaces. Just to let everyone know, this is a tragic event in ALL of our lives that will stay with many forever. There is not a day that goes by that a tear of joy comes to my eye for our Shirley Ann Beggs. We love you and miss you Shirley. Hugs and Kisses...you know who we are.
PS...Does anyone know of a memorial for Shirley?

i am amy's brother, i am looking for the people who posted there name as "becky" and "long ago" and "xoxoxoxo", if you know my family then contact me. my email is fatsdavid77@yahoo.com. jeffs mom i would like to hear from u to, sorry for your loss.

" jeff's mom" please call me! stepdad has my number. miranda is going to struggle through this and may need to talk. im not sure exactly how to handle all of this. we found out through thyis article what had happened. we need answers. she needs answers. I am so sorry for this loss for you. i really am. please call me.

Still miss you and love you...every day!

I knew Jeff for a few years now and all I have to say is that he was not a good person. Come on people he was a drug addict! And no he was not a good parent, he abandoned his children. Not only the 3 from Mitchell, but there are others out there. Just look at his picture what a classic crack-head. It was just a matter of time before he died. I think the world is a little safer and better that he is no longer here. Let his life be a lesson to all concerning the dangers of drugs.

Bad things happen to bad people. Enough said!!

Are they arresting the Grandaughter for helping or was it just the boyfried?

To "P":
They should arrest the granddaughter. People like her belong in jail. When are these white-trash uneducated people going to learn, DRUGS ARE BAD!!! They make you do stupid things like kill defenseless elderly people.
Just look at those pictures of that Nolen guy. Looks like he aged a million years, and those ears!! How could anyone love a mug like that? What an ugly guy! Just gives me the creeps looking at his picture. They should use his pictures to scare children not to use drugs.

To "Lock her up, Forever!"
Drug and money, this neighborhood needs to get those people out! I assume she doesn't live in her rental anymore. Does she have her kids? I wonder if she is still in Fallbrook?

Yes P,
I agree it is time to take our neighborhood back!

Yes Amy is still around Fallbrook she is waiting tables at a local restraunt. And no she does not have her boys at this time. I hope she pays for whatever involvment she had in this ugly situation.

Thought of you a lot over the holidays. You are missed. I hope you have found peace finally. Hugs and Kisses.

Maybe this year someone will be served with an arrest warrant.

I'm very curious as to who xoxoxo is? Are you a relative? I realize you might want to stay anonomous however it would be comforting to know what realationship you are to the grandmother. Please?

I would like to stay anonymous as this case is still open. Shirley impacted my life very much and I love her.

To xoxoxo - I appreciate your desire to stay anonymous, however would you at least be willing to admit to being either family or a very close friend going all the way back to Shirley's childhood?

Who are you, no name?

you shouldn't comment on something if you don't know what you're talking about. jeff was and still is my dad. i miss him and love him. i know the rest of my family does too. these commments that you people leave hurt me, my family, and anyone who has ever known my dad. he was not a bad dad. he loved me. and talked to me as much as he could. when i lived in california i spent just about every weekend with him and my little brothers and amy. they were great parents. we always had fun. and they took great care of me and my brothers. i didn't really know too much about how everything was going a couple years after i moved. but the people in my family really didn't know much either right before this happened. he didn't really try to talk to anyone. he was always working. trying to make enough money to support his family, and me. and he lived away from the family. he lived in san diego county while most of the rest of the family lived in either riverside county or san bernadino county, i don't know which one it was, or if it was both. it's a pretty long drive from fallbrook to these counties. and my dad really wasn't the kind of person to call all the time. just like basically the rest of the family.

i think everyone should just shut up with their comments. i mean why would you keep this going on for four months? seriously. GET A LIFE.

Whay would anyone keep this going on for 4 months? I'll tell you why Miranda. Because this woman, Shirley, was someone's friend, mother, daughter, sister, wife, grandmother. In other words, she was important to people other than you. She was brutally murdered and to the people that she matter to, it is hard to process her being gone in such a horible manner. We do have a life, one that is without a loved one. This is not about your father, it's about the person that was taken away from us so unexpectedly and with such brutality. Not only by your father's actions but by Amy's also. Four months? As much as it might bother you that it goes on for SO long, for the some of us it was just a moment ago that it happened. You tell us to GET A LIFE - you need to grow up.

Wow I could have been the one writing that. I fully agree. Miranda, I am sorry for your loss, but along side you I am sure. There are a few others that can't sleep at night, have to have our bedroom door shut, keep replaying these aweful events in our heads. I think we are looking for closure. 4 months does seem like a long time, especially to wait for such answers.
I have not said bad things. I wish I would have called someone about this sooner. I cry with feeling of guilt for you Shirley. Hugs and kisses xxoxoxo

To no name 78, are you the same person that has been trying to contact xoxoxo

no name:
i need to grow up? why don't you just go comment on something else. seriously. all i asked for was that people stop commenting on this. i do feel sorry for shirley. she didn't deserve to be killed. but you also don't know the whole story, so why don't you comment on something you know everything about? it's just like gossip. don't say anything unless you know the full truth. or the whole story. get off the computer and live your life. don't worry about these articles unless they really are your business. so many things are put on the internet these days that are not everyone's business, really. they're just put up here for entertainment. which is completely stupid, in my opinion. i think that you shouldn't even be able to comment on these stories. because these stories really don't need anyone's input.

Miranda,
I will attribute your ignorance to your young age. This is my business or else I wouldn't be so passionate about it.

A step closer! Amy is not a free woman at this moment!

All I have to say is it's about time people really see Amy for who she is. Everybody always falls for her sad sob stories, which are always lies. Don't feel sorry for her. She deserves what she gets. I mean what kind of person loses their husband and only after a few weeks is spotted around town with a new man. I have known her for only a little while but that's all the time I needed to see what kind of person she is. So caution for everybody that's trying to help her, she is using you, don't be a fool like me, stay away!

People go about their lives daily, living each day getting by. Then something like this happends, in our community, our lives. It's incredibly sad what happened to the grandmother, incredibly sad how it affected her family. As harsh as it may seem, Amy Jo needs to answer for her actions. There is no excuse for what she did. Or for what the boyfriend did. None. If she is in custody at this time and is found accountable for what she did, let her serve her time. It could never be enough. It will in no way make up for what she took away from this poor woman and the family that is in no way conected to the destruction that is Amy's life.

To "who knows",
It gave me chills reading your blog. Thank you for someone else understanding. Amy DOES need to answer for her actions. She disgusts me! Rest in Peace S.A.B. We love you and miss you. Think of you everyday. Sometimes you put a smile to my face, sometimes tears to my eyes.

I agree Amy does need to answer for her actions. And with more then probation. I don't understand why her family let her off so easy. She is going to be out next month and she hasn't learned anything, she still claims she is innocent and that she only plead guilty to get probation. She needs to sit in there and think about the lives she has messed up. If she can do this to her own family who else can she do this to?

We don't know what the family agreed to or didn't agreed to in terms of Amy's sentencing. She won't neccessarily be out next month, she hasn't been sentenced yet. And it won't be up to the family to decide what that sentence is, it's up to the judge. However, no matter what her sentence is, she will never change her spots. She will continue to be the user that she is and anyone who buys into her act will get taken for a ride. Pity the poor church group that is supporting her.

Amy will be released from prison March 10th.

Well at least Jeff is still dead. :)

Lock your doors hide your money. The wicked witch is officially out of prison. And to all who feel sorry for her fake abused wife story watch out she's taking you for a ride. She's nothing but lies and fake tears.

is she back in fallbrook?

Yes she is in Fallbrook

what is Amy up to? anybody know anthing about her?

I use to know her. The press didn't mention that she has a daughter from an ex boyfriend. He was a decent guy that didn't do drugs. He fought her in court and won full custody over their little girl because of her drug abuse.

I hope she suffers a painful life for what she has done to the people in her life.

To from the past comment #95, How do you know of her daughter?

to Help fast. I knew of her daughter because I use to know her when she still worked at Carrows, and I would see her daughter there with her when we use to hang out together. Thankfully her ex boyfriend had a good head on his shoulders and fought to win custody over her, otherwise, she would be a lost cause like her mother.

does anyboby know what Amy is up to? does she see any of her family? kids? life has gone on and she hasn't a clue.