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Translate this page ![]() An officer prepares to bring a handcuffed suspect to the San Diego County Fallbrook Sheriff’s substation during a multi-agency operation targeting gan... ![]() A suspect is arrested for an outstanding felony warrant. ![]() A Carlsbad police officer assisting in the gang task force operation studies a map of Fallbrook in a briefing held before they took to the street. ![]() A San Diego County Sheriff’s deputy questions two girls after a suspect allegedly fled
into a nearby home during a multi-agency task force operation ... ![]() Lt. Alex Dominguez, commander of the Fallbrook Sheriff’s Substation, welcomes the gang task force to his jurisdiction and thanks them for their effort... Gang ‘sweep’ brings multiple agencies to townThursday, April 24th, 2008 Issue 17, Volume 12.
A multi-agency, multi-jurisdictional partnership comprised of approximately 55 officers from the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department, District Attorney’s Office, Gang Suppression Unit, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Carlsbad and Oceanside Police Departments participated in the sweep funded by the Edward Byrne Memorial Grant. The grant, in the amount of $983,723, was awarded to the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department by the US Department of Justice for the purpose of reducing violent crime and gang violence in North San Diego County. Led by Sheriff’s Detective Curtis Fewell, the special operation resulted in 12 arrests and one deportation, with others pending. "We thought it was a very successful operation," said Fewell. "It’s not that we have a bad town; this is a special task force brought together to combat gangs. We are doing this in different towns and cities." The arrests made on April 11 included those for possession of methamphetamine or heroine, under the influence of methamphetamine or heroine, transportation of methamphetamine, domestic violence/battery and driving without a license. In addition, four driving citations were issued and a dozen searches for various locations were ordered. "I think it was shocking to some of the gang members to see that many cops at once; they saw that we can come out in force," said Fewell. Areas targeted in the sweep, known to contain gang "hangouts," included South Vine Street, Alturas Road, Almond Street, Clemmens Lane, Aviation Road, Iowa Street, Old Stage Road and Ammunition Road. Fewell said gang members have a tendency to gravitate toward the back of properties, especially in multiple-unit complexes. Fallbrook Commander Alex Dominguez said although crime (overall) was down 17 percent here from 2006 to 2007, the operation was requested because his staff was aware that several youth had recently been inducted into the street gang, which now contains fourth generation members. "We learned that about seven new gang members were jumped into the local street gang," Fewell confirmed. "We have also seen an increase in the number of younger ‘pee-wees’ starting to show up who have yet to be identified and documented." The operation also produced a substantial amount of valuable information for the Sheriff’s Department. "The officers conducted about 20 field interviews with gang affiliates," Fewell said, that provided valuable information for detectives. "[Gang members] were stopped in vehicles and on the street for this purpose." Fewell said the primary focus of the gang has been the use and trafficking of narcotics. "The substances [gang members] primarily deal in are methamphetamine and pot [marijuana]," Fewell said. He explained that Fallbrook’s gang has about 130 known affiliates, with some 39 members currently documented with the Department of Justice. While the youngest are usually 12, he said there are currently some 7-year-old boys involved. "We get acknowledgement [confirmation] from Advertisement The Fallbrook street gang has a known affiliation with the Mexican Mafia, Fewell said, as do most street gangs south of Bakersfield. Fewell explained that contact between members of street gangs and the Mexican Mafia is initiated in the Southern California jail and prison system, where prisoners agree to the Mafia’s conditions in return for their personal safety. Upon their release, these gang members usually continue to support the Mafia’s mission, he said. "They are told it’s either that or be killed," Fewell said. During the gang sweep, at about 7:30 that night, a shooting incident took place on Ammunition Road in front of Carl’s Jr. restaurant. "It started out with a physical brawl," explained Sgt. Theresa Adams-Hydar. "A Hispanic male hit a Black male with a baseball bat; then, the Black male pulled a weapon and fired three shots – one shot [skimming] the Hispanic victim’s head." Although the victim refuses to press charges, Adams-Hydar said, the Sheriff’s Department is continuing the investigation into the matter. It has been said that both males appear to be affiliated with street gangs. "The [extra] officers were [in town] when the shooting went on; that was helpful," she said. Two evenings later, deputies responded to what eyewitnesses say was another gang-related incident, this time at Alturas Road and Cancun. "We received two calls for service on that one," Adams-Hydar said. One call was from an elderly resident who reported that three teenagers were hiding in his backyard. The other call was for "shots fired" in the neighborhood. "As it turns out, an 18-year-old and two 17-year-olds threw some water balloons at what they believed to be a group of gang members," Adams-Hydar said. "The alleged gang members chased the balloon throwers, who jumped into their car and then hid in the citizen’s back yard." Adams-Hydar said the "gunshots" turned out to be the "gang members" banging their baseball bats on the car of the balloon throwers. An eyewitness, who asked to remain anonymous, says there were firearms discharged in the incident. When asked what he thought the average resident of Fallbrook thought about the influx of officers in town that day, Fewell said, "A lot of people were happy to see it. Some of them said, ‘It’s about time.’" "Hopefully it sets a precedent that we don’t want gangs here and we are going to find out who they are," he said. "We want them to know that if they do bad things, they will go to jail, because they have a choice whether to be a gang member or not." Fewell said he doesn’t know exactly when another operation of this magnitude will take place here, but says it will – because more funding is in progress. "It’s going to happen soon; more federal grants are coming down the pipeline for more of these operations," Fewell said. "We will also be doing special drug operations." 95 comments
Get this scumbags of our streets..
This is outrageous! Over $900,000 spent to arrest 12 people? That type of funding could have been used in a much more appropriate way to help these troubled youth, and that is what they are, troubled youth. This article and the Sheriffs grossly exaggerate the "gang problem" in Fallbrook. I know one of the youth who was shot in the head and he is NOT a gang member. This is outrageous and a waste of taxpayer money. Curtis Fewell should be fired! ![]()
Contrary to popular opinion, many youth do not have a choice of being gang members. Fallbrook Sheriffs often force Latino youth to admit they're gang members when they are young, then the documentation process begins. How do I know? I was documented as a gang member against my will. Also, Latino youth don't CHOOSE to be born into poverty and a society that is anti-Latino. Stop blaming the youth for societies problems.
I thought it was Varrios Fallbrook Locos, not Lobos.
I am appauled by the content of these comments. I cannot believe the poison being spewed. What a huge waste of money. The arrest of 12 individuals cost us almost $900,000 you have got to be kidding! If children as young as 7 are joining gangs my question is where is the community? Why don't you all begin a mentoring program to guide and direct these young people and the you probably won't be having to look over your shoulder. Hey Bryon do you really think all the crimes committed in Fallbrook or anywhere for that matter are done by Latinos? You are wrong our society breeds criminals of all ethnicities, nationalities, and races. Yes that includes caucasians. I think this operation was a waste of my valuable tax dollars not to mention time and effort. ![]()
“As it turns out, an 18-year-old and two 17-year-olds threw some water balloons at what they believed to be a group of gang members." You have got to be kidding me. We sent out 55 officers and spent $983,000+ dollars!! Seems alittle extreme don't you think?
It saddens and disappoints me to HEAR (or shall I say read) that people actually are applauding an injustice. This grant was indeed a waste of money. I implore you, be part of the solution. Help the youth that is at risk. Instead of wasting time and effort belittling and reinforcing racist sentiments; invest your time, effort, and money into progressive mentoring programs. It is your hate and regard towards people as "others" that breeds hostility and creates the type of environment that fosters gangs.
We are re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Unless Mexico takes charge of offering education, and social programs, no American jail can hold the torrent of immigration. Free food, health care, a bed and toilet are more than these indigents have ever seen, JAIL IS GOOD! WAKE UP AMERICA, the bleeding hearts have ruined our country
If I read this correctly, there was $983,723 given to the Sheriff's Department to combat gang members in NORTH COUNTY. If memory serves, there have been other recent gang sweeps in Vista, San Marcos, and Escondido attributed to this grant. I personally saw officers from Carlsbad and Oceanside there as well. I will bet that these cities are part of the grant as well. So all you boohooers out there appear to be way off base. If you really think that 12 arrests cost you almost a million dollars than you are just dumb. One "choice" comment struck me as really funny. Of course gang members don't want to be documented, but their actions (criminal activity) and associates give them away. I hope you have left your gang lifestyle behind you and are now a productive member of society. Maybe the documentation helped you fix yourself. You are fixed, aren't you?
The only good point that Bridgette made is that America needs to wake up!! Many people who are applauding the 55 officers are misinformed about Latinos and about immigration. Influenced by the media, racist politicians, it's no wonder they base everything around false assumptions. Here are some facts: Immigrants bring in more revenue per year then they take out in taxes. Immigrants working in the agricultural industry in CA bring in more than $30 billion/year. In SD county alone it's about $2 billion/year. The US free trade policies contribute greatly to poverty around the world, such as NAFTA. It has robbed people from their lands, jobs, and subjects women, children, men to all kinds of exploitation. No where in the article does it say the youth are from Mexico! Many incorrectly assume that all immigrants are from Mexico, inform yourselfs!! The sheriff did not mention the methods they use to track "gang members." These methods include racial profiling, discrimination among other things. I also agree that this was a complete waste of tax money. We have seen historically that enforcement only does not work!! Again, instead of investing money on education we waste it endelessly on useless methods!! This needs to stop, starting with the recall of the governator!!
This opperation was done from funds of a grant. It did not cost the total amount. That gives the sheriff money for other opperations in North County I say thank you Sheriffs for work well done. Thank you, Detective Curtis Fewell. Thanks for keeping are Fallbrook safe. Please do this some more. You end up in jail because you do stupied things.
The waste of money is any money spent on a person in this country illegally. And why is it that if I believe anyone here illegally should be foreced to leave I am called a racist or that I have something against Latinos. When I say anyone here illegally should leave, I mean ANYONE no matter from where they came -- Europe, Asia, Africa, South America -- or the moon as far as I am concerned!! Someone wants to mentor kids -- fine, as long as they are here legally. Someone else blames society for the criminals -- it's not their fault society made them into criminals -- give me a break!!
$983,723 spent on 12 arrests. Was Bush in-charge of this operation? The so-called law enforcement officers who participated in this operation should be ashamed of themselves! Why not spend the money on prevention and diversion programs for youth? Even Bush would admit that this operation was a complete failure and waste of resources.
You go Bridgette!! .. since when has wanting laws enforced become 'racist'? Mexico's government is nothing more than a big drug gang anyway.
It sounds to me that there are a portion of people that do not see the seriousness that is going on in this town. We live in town and hear gun shots on a regular basis, and yes I know what gunshots sound like. Outrageous and Daphne the 900 grand is on going, plus I dont think either of you realize what it takes to arrest people these days. If you think that funding should have been spent on the community center you probably would have got a "let me educate you about government programs" day and another water fountain there. WAKE UP. "Choice" you have got to be kidding me- you dont have a choice on weather to join a gang, thats ridiculous and idiotic. People WAKE UP. There gang members jumping in new members on a regular basis, there are unprovoked gang initiated assaults that happen in fallbrook. Daphne the only poison being spewed it the level of disbelief by people like you. I dont know why people like you are unwilling to believe the truth, maybe you just cant handle it. There is a real world out there "What" if you beleive that was all about water balloons -WAKE UP. It takes back bone to get a job like this done. THANK YOU law enforcement, good job we are grateful.
They are now tagging up my neighborhood. If they cant respect my property, I have no reason to respect them. We should be allowed to shoot them on sight, since they dont care about our laws. Deport them to TJ where they belong.
What a typical Fallbrookian way to address any "problem" in our community. Instead of putting that money into mentoring, after school programs, education (more teachers/ counselors)...na, lets waste our tax payers dollars by locking up 12 misdirected kids. Shame on you Village Voice to present this obvious BS as some sort of savior that meets the needs of our community.
Daphne-You do realize if you look at the statistics, most of the crimes are committed by non-caucasians. and please spare me the "our society forces ethnic persons to be criminals" rhetoric
Choice words Bridgette! The price tag is too high, true. On the other hand we can't remain spectators. This is America, not Mexico. I am of at least 5 nationalities, one being native American. Stop being fools and start doing good and not harm to each other.
It's funny how in 2008 we can spend $1 million to catch 12 supposed criminal 'gang members' when we could have used this money for education or the money that Bush is giving on tax returns. Are we moving forward as a NATION or as a People when we spend Trillions in War and we can't take care of our own problems. There exist a bigger picture to all of this. When the system does it or the Sheriff Dept. does wrongdoings it's ok because they do it legally and with justification but when these 'gang members' do things because it's part of survival and they've learned it from the government themselves then it's wrong or it's illegal. Slavery exists today in the Prison Industrial Complex (PIC) and it's legal there. We are just blind to the facts and the system is still keeping us down as a people, but I guarantee the day our people the working class become conscious then that is the day we will stop being oppressed by the system...We just need to read between the lines and not get caught up!!!!
Hey Daphne, Outrageous, Choice, most of us have had it worth your "do good" attitudes, why don't you adopt some of these misunderstood youths and take them to your house or neighborhood? You won't be crying until a stray bullet enters your house, or your kid gets hit by a drugged up illegal alien in a van. Give us a break, with your condescending psychobable about troubled youths. Typical So Cal liberal elitists, "you have no clothes emperor!"
Jeff you are looking from the outside in. I have no problem with Gang banging criminals being arrested. I am from Fallbrook I have never been involved in any gang related activities none! I was labeled one in high school, but I think any Latino in Fallbrook at that time was considered a gang banger.. I think labeling any child a gang member is very dangerous. Especially a 7 year old. I have been pulled over just for being a Big Bald Mexican in a nice car. If a Mexican american gets shot he becomes a suspected gang member if he would have been white he would have been a victim, not a suspected gang member.
Fern - Give it a rest. Most of us are intelligent to know that not all Latinos are gang members.
San Diego says 'most of the crimes are committed by non-caucasians.' This is untrue, regardless of your opinion on this matter, if you want to claim statistics, provide them: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_43.html
Feeble attempts to make this “gang sweep” an intellectual discussion. Most of you are so infected by your “trustful” politicians’ and media’s finger pointing at undocumented immigrants to intelligently question the sources of information and use of statistics to justify an opinion. At the very least you should question how a minority of people could account for the majority of this nation’s, this state’s, and this community’s problems. That is crazy thinking, so we are left to justify your lack of intelligent questioning as not your fault…you must merely be a “poor” racist, poor you. Fact: only 10% of gangsters are undocumented immigrants state wide! So how did all you intelligent people come to the conclusion that this was an immigration debate? Fact: 12 people were arrested and none of them were arrested for gangbanging. Under the influence, domestic violence, possession, driving without a license and traffic tickets. WOW not such a successful gang sweep, in fact more of a joke(in my opinion)!! Furthermore, these arrests illustrate the multifaceted problems facing our communities and are not specific to gang members and really not to an immigration issue at all. I only wish you could just admit you are racist and you despise brown…it would make a lot more sense and we could finally get to the root of the problem, your ignorance, fear and hate.
As a former employee of Juvenile Hall, I witnessed that the VAST majority of the kids there were ones whose parents immigrated illegaly here from Mexico. It always boggled my mind at the irony that we were "law enforcement" aware that people were here illegaly, yet steps were never taken to correct the broken law. It was heart wrenching watching these Mexican parents with hands that had the evidence of a very hard day's work come to visit and agonize over what had become of their children. They had come here thinking it would give their children a better life. Program Manager: the reason that only 10% of the gangsters are "undocumented immigrants" is because we are dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant's children, most of them born here. This does not change the facts. And to all those that keep recommending more "programs" for these kids, please show me one person that wants to sit through another program. They don't want the programs. And the suggestions for funding them for improving their grades and/or giving them college money rather than spending that money arresting them- are you out of your mind? All these suggestions are like a bottomless pit. The problem and solution is at a micro level, not some outside program.
Let’s face the fact... The Latino community does NOTHING to promote a favorable image. Facts are facts; the illegals are responsible for majority of the problems. Get them all deported and the problem will slowly dissipate. I realize Caucasian people do contribute to this mess but the overwhelming the majority are illegal locations. The Latinos should set a better standard for their own people. If you want us to embrace you, please show respect and you will earn respect. Trash us and the laws here and you will be treated like trash.... Look at Sonora Mexico now upset because the sheriff in US is enforcing laws resulting in illegal’s return home to Mexico. The Mexican state is now appealing for us help because they cannot deal with the influx of retuning Mexican and the drug and crime issues. See its not who you are it’s what your are….
a huge thanks to Detective Fewell and all of the law enforcement involved for all of their efforts to protect our community. Please keep it up.
I think they should do these sweeps, with or without a grant. Stop harrassing us working class people on our way to work and put the resources out at night combating crime. I passed 2 Escondido motorcycle police and 5 Escondido police car units on my way to work this morning, two of which were giving citations. I never see this many out at night and I drive by a lot of graphitti and stripped cars, etc. to get to work every morning. But that's just Escondido. (I'm also moving as a result of it)
Listen to the hypocritical white elite liberals who live beyond and out-of-touch of the reality of downtown Fallbrook. They talk a talk, but don't walk the walk. Busing? All for it. As long as it stays IN the INNER city, away from the Volvos, Hybrids, and BMWs. Toss some welfare and projects at them. Talk about 'two Americas'. Get teary-eyed when you see an Obama speech. Spike the truth about what real empowerment is for the poor underclass and what the real source of their struggle and pain is, point fingers at conservatives, call them names like, "racist" and "Nazi"; worship the so-called "War on Poverty". Don't look at how the government programs are subsidizing this community's downward spiral. Oppose education reform and improved standards and expectations; fight against school choice for those stuck with hellish-nightmare schools and kowtow to the teachers' unions! The biggest hypocritical mantra of all by Liberal minions and their Main Steam Media enablers: "It's for the children". ![]()
all Fallbrook residents MUST understand that this IS A GANG! They may be small and less agressive than those in big cities, but do not underestimate their ability to commit dangerous crimes. I speak from experience, they ARE dangerous if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or if you live in certain areas of Fallbrook. Those that live in the outskirts/rural part of town may not realize this because the gang element is almost non-existent outside downtown Fallbrook. But those of us who have lived in certain downtown neighborhoods like Alturas, Old Stage, Vine, etc - we know these areas are completely different. Stabbings and shooting HAVE happened, drug dealings, robbery, assualt,etc.....this is not TV it is is your town. CHECK THE BLOTTER!
leah i dont know where the hell you got your info from. If there were 10 shots fired in the "water balloon incident" it would have been all over the news!!! And was it? NOPE
Well said former old stage coach resident.Downtown Fallbrook is not safe. o pity the business sector. I do not shop downtown at all. it is dirty,ugly and unsafe. See what the illegal popilation has done. Get more sweeps and get tese druggies before they get us. this is not TJ this is Fallbrook. Call ICE and Sheriff when you suspect something,do it for fallbrook. I hope the sheriff will enforce immigration law too and get those illegal druggies deported.
Tom: I got my info from an immediate family member that was an unfortunate eye witness to the event, who reported this immediately to 911 along with 3 other eye witnesses. There were 2 different guns discharged in the incident with a total of 10 shots fired. An inquiry was made to the Sherrif's Dept. the next day to inquire on the incident and ask why they had not further questioned an eye witness for more detailed information. I was shocked to hear that the case was closed because no charges were filed and no "evidence" was found that gunshots were fired. Eyewitness accounts must not be enough evidence for them to want more info. Two cars were involved and one fled the scene before the cops arrived. So either they had both guns or they used a revolver which does not leave any shells behind. Tom, it would do you good to listen to people and residents before believing everything the media feeds out or does not feed out to you. Just because the media or the Sherrif's dept. does not feed you the info, does NOT mean it did not occur. Get out of the box because the real world does not live in one.
Yes we should get rid of the gang element. NO not just for some but for all of good peacefull people. For the mex for the white for the yellow for the purple for all of use Thank You Local Sheriff Department!
how do you know they are all here illegaly you are bios.
To those of your complaining that "too much money" was spent, just be glad that the problem is being addressed. If not, Fallbrook downtown would actually be a whole lot worse. I say more crack downs. More! Fallbrook needs to be a place where the gangs/mafias fear just to enough to go somewhere else. Also, mentoring programs will help only the FEW who even realize that they want to live the American dream instead of the free for all attitude.
I am so tired of all you "non-racists" hating on Mexicans and Latinos...no matter if we were born and raised in California since it was Mexico or if we came here for the first time yesterday, you see us all the same and you don't want to let us join in on the U.S. dream (I say U.S. because we are all American. the whole content is America so we are all Americans)….so why don’t all you pilgrims pack up your s*&t and go to Oklahoma. Leave California to its rightful owners!!! Or stop complaining….Latinos aren’t going anywhere, you are wasting your breath and limited life with hate and ignorance and when you are on your death bed you’ll have done nothing but hate on people for wanting to raise their family. (less than %1 of the overall immigrant population is criminal, don’t trust the media and politicians)
To Fed Up: I think the main issue that causes resentment against the illegal immigrants other than the crimes committed is the fact that we have a welfare state. If we did not give "free" education, "free" health care, "free" social programs, and "free" food to illegal immigrants, us legal citizens would not be carrying the financial burden of paying for all of those things. If there was no welfare and free programs available, then we would all be on the same page- all equal Americans. The government has created this inequality and it is not fair to immigrants- legal or not.
Ok, I am appaled that none of you idiots can read! If you go back and look it says that the grant was for the San Diego county sherrifs. No where in this artical did it say that they spent all of this money on 12 arrests. Come on people get a clue and get over yourselves! They did a good thing here! ![]()
I live on Alturas and I see this problem everyday! It is getting to be a horrible area! It scares me that there was gun fire near where I live. I go to Carls Jr with my 2 kids all the time. I think I may think twice about it next time. The money was not spent all on just 12 arrests. It was for the whole county. You people need to learn to read! I have lived in this area since 1990 and It is not a nice place anymore.
Oh Mr. Program Manager, what would you do to clean up the problem? Put a chicken in every pot? Provide a free bandana to every gang member? Don't criticize the cops when you are just sitting on your fat behind doing nothing but spewing liberal jibberish. What law enforcement is doing is trying to address a problem that will eventually consume this town if they don't. Where will you and your liberal friends move then? Or will you stay behind and run drugs for the gang?
yea i know what you guys mean i am in the corps and i live off ammunition and have deployed a few times. Everyday i worry about my family living there. I have had my car broken into 3 times and attempted break in on my place. I have been in fallbrook for 3 years and i have noticed a rapid change for the worse since then. I hope it gets better because i love the area and it used to be a great place.
Ok. To settle some of the disputes here... the grant for $900,000.00 is to be spent over a period of over 16 months. This grant includes continual gang sweeps through out the cities of Oceanside, Vista, San Marcos, Carlsbad and Fallbrook. This grant is called the Edward Byrne Memorial Grant.. for you computer nerds look it up... Your local tax dollars are not being wasted this is a Federal Grant to disuade gang crimes. If it's not a testiment to how bad things are, while 50 cops from various agencies are working the City of Fallbrook, one gang member shoots another.. HMMM is there a problem.. I think so. There have been about nine of these sweeps total, in the cities of Vista, Oceandside, San Marcos and Fallbrook.. all of which have netted significant arrests. Oh by the way.. They are not just targeting Latino gang members... they are targeting ALL gang members. If you read the article in regards to the shooting.. You will see a Black male gang member fired upon and struck a Hispanic gang member. Furthermore, the recent fatal stabbing of the motorist in the car jacking attempt at the shell station.. Yeah the gang member is a White gang member... Before you jump off the handle get all of you facts. The men and women sworn to protect you .. ARE DOING THERE BEST... and the cost to undo all that has been done runs deeper than a million dollar grant. It takes money, planning and sheer guts to protect the citizen's...
I only wish that our Second Ammendment right was not taken away to protect ourselves. The police force obviously, as hard as they work, cannot be everywhere all the time. It is high time us law abiding citizens are armed to protect ourselves wherever we go.
To Leah: I don't recall the repeal of the second amendment. When was that? Although most of the other amendments of the Bill of Rights have been perverted or abolished by Bush, it seems that the second is still in force. I own a .357 and a .30-30 Winchester - and no one came knocking on my door to take them away. Personally, I would like to see a complete assault rifle ban, a solid background check required to buy and own any firearm, and a ban on felons to own any firearms. I don't see that as infringing on the second amendment - but do see it as a public safety issue. I think you'll find that most liberals agree with me, and would not want any laws that go further than that. Several years ago my house in Fallbrook was broken into (luckily for them, I wasn’t home). I assumed it was illegal immigrants – but I was wrong. When the police caught up with them, it turned out to be white meth addicts. I think we’re too eager to blame all our problems on immigrants. Most are just hard working good people. If anyone in politics wanted to solve the immigrant problem all we have to do is issue ID cards that can’t be forged to all US citizens, and then make it a serious crime for companies to hire anyone without that ID. A couple of CEOs going to jail for a year or two would send the right message. Overnight, the market for undocumented workers would go away, and they would go home. The guys on the corner looking for work are not the problem; they’re just a small symptom of the problems. There would be some residual criminals who might still be here, but eventually they would be caught and deported. If you needed the ID to open a bank account, get a driver’s license, get a job, buy a car, there would be no problem. The reason the government does not do this is two fold: American businesses depend on cheap illegal labor – for instance, the avocado business here in Fallbrook would dry up and blow away without them. Millions of agricultural, meat packing, and construction workers are illegal immigrants. That’s why we would need to have a legal guest worker program along with any real fix. The other reason is the traditional conservative paranoia about government issued ID cards. It’s seemed strange to me that they fight this proposal, while complaining about illegal immigrants, and say nothing about our government actually spying on our citizens without cause or warrants.
To Jon: You are correct in that our second ammendment has not been repealed, however, it has been greatly infringed upon. I meant that, as a law abiding citizen, I should be able to protect myself and my family anywhere I go and not just in my home. Unarmed citizens always lose when the criminal is armed- not balanced. And that is one of the reasons the second ammendment was put in place. According it, we have the right to "keep" AND "bear" arms. Well, the "keep" part is in place, but not the "bear" part. As far as illegal immigrants are concerned, I know several and they are nice, hard working people. That is not the argument here. We already have many legal migrant workers, green cards, temporary work permits avaiable, etc. Our borders are not difficult to enter legally. This legal process makes sure we are not accepting criminals here among other things. Us tax payers carry a heavy load to finance their healthcare, hospital visits, food, education, jail time, deporation costs, etc. Before the welfare state, this problem did not exist. I have full respect for ALL immigrants who respect our laws, come here legally and take care of their own. As far as a National ID card goes, I already have two numbers- my SSN and CDL- enough for me. We have enough laws in place, beaurocracies and paper pushers. The borders are open for the coming North American Union.
Wow both Jon Monday and Leah are basically saying the same thing but with a different spin. Both seem intelligent and informed. So what can we tax paying people to get the illegals out and implement a system of valid identification? I am fearful our little village is running out of time. Before long, it will collapse or the tax paying home owners will move out. Enough is enough
To Tony: Unfortunately, not even the police or Sherrif is "allowed" to verify if someone is here legally or illegaly. It is considered "bias" to ask, although if they do go to jail then it is legal to find out their status. So, as far as the welfare state goes, there is no verification system set in place. California voters voted "yes" on prop 187 years ago which would have made it so that no illegals would receive anything from tax paying citizens (no public ed, health care, food, etc.) but that was overturned by the Supreme Court declaring it unconstitutional. I blame our political elites for creating such a mess and tension between the legal and illegal population. If everyone was paying there way, the tension would be much lower. Please google the "North American Union". You will find there the truth about why our borders are open and the welfare state is in full operation.
OKAY ITS NOT JUST MEXICANS BUT THATS WHO THEY ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR JUST GANG MEMBERS BUT ITS TRUE U NEED TO KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE WHITE CRACK HEADS OUT THEIR!!!!!
I just finished reading 'Honor Few Fear None' a book written by Ruben Cavazos, International president of the Mongols motorcycle gang; deemed the most violent, notorious and deadliest gang in the motorcycle world. Just ask the Hells Angels,the Ukrainian mafia, or the Mexican mafia (La eMe) or the ATF or FBI. This is the gang that shot it out with the Hell's Angels inside Harrahs' casino, Laughlin, Nevada in 2002. No water balloons here. Most of the members started out as pee wees. Little gang bangers from East L.A. Yes, little punks grow up and become bigger punks and no amount of money, shallow social programs or law enforcement is going to make it go away. To the NRA members, when one gang member falls, so does one of your family members, that's the oath. If you ask law enforcement they will tell you" it's handled "as they buckle down their bullet proof vests. Wake up America. Do gangs have the firepower and financial backing that can even come close to the law ? You're a Jet all the way.
I don't care if your purple, blue, black, brown, white; Drug dealers are drug dealers & we need to keep them OFF "OUR" steets & throw the key away! I'm so happy they caught the VFL's & are working to make OUR community a safer place for us to live & our kids to play.
it's sad to this about my people,if only we would stop and see an hear what happening to us raza stop look around we don't need this any more pain. let's make something for are self so people can say gooding thing of us, God has shown me that black,whites and ex... can live together as one loving family if i could only turn time back i would chance and my people.if some one in the varrio care do some thing to keep the kid out of gangs. love, peace to all.
Is the VFL gang still active in Fallbrook? Is who attacked us actually what was not picked up in the sweep? These were very young men, say from 10-14 with the leader being 18-20. Oct. 2, 2008 we made the front page for being attacked. We also contacted the FBI hate crime division because if you are attacked because of your "Apparent" color, gender, gay OR your VISIBLY disabled by a gang it is a HATE CRIME! 4 qualifiers, and the requirement of a gang. Four Hispanic Youths were walking North on Main Street Fallbrook on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 5:35. The oldest of the males punched Brian in the Chest after making crude cussing rap song slurs directed at us. We ignored it thinking it was just nasty rap. We were happy walking down the street. We have never been in a gang and we are not exactly white either. I gave chase after the attack and the attacker evaded citizens arrest. This may have been a gang initiation from what others have said. It was racially motivated and it was violent!
There are at least 10 extra sheriff"s cars in Fallbrook tonight and all of the officers were dressed in black gear.Is there another sweep tonight or WHAT?
These are the people who encourage their children to drop out of high school so that they can work and support the rest of their families. This is why they're dealing drugs and stealing. They can't find work doing anything else. They don't want an education. They want a free ride. I know because I am surrounded by them. And yes, I do know them personally. Does anybody see any white gang bangers hanging out downtown? Would you be afraid of a group of white kids outside a store? I wouldn't. And there's a reason for that. There's a reason that there is profiling. If a shark attacked you, wouldn't you be afraid of sharks? People need to wake up because this is only getting worse.
This is a joke, I hope. We are not a communist country, this is not a "police state". All I have seen is people being harassed in their cars, walking down the street, even in their apt. complexes. Not to mention, this attack was launched on the Latino people. Give me a break, now you know why our taxes are so high. This is stupidity and it makes me ill. What happened tp America, land of the free????
To all of you concerned about the poor dark-skinned put upon persons here making trouble. It has NOthing to do with the color of the skin. It has everything to do with being documented. A white meth-user-dealer can be tracked down. An illegal anyone cannot. We used to have a Canadian fellow as our neighbor. Everybody here lo9ved the guy. His mobile home surroundings were rapidly made far more beautiful than when he moved in, he always waved as we would drive by, smiling at him. Then, one day he was gone. Why? Because he was (evidently) here illegally. Where were all the snivelers when that happened? Trust me, he was white as white can be. YOU have your own country - if you're so darned proud of it, guess where you can go? We finally got rid of shrub - as many of you as there are, you all ought to be able to do something yourselves to oust the presidente. I was utterly disgusted by all the MEXICAN flag-waving when you had your little protest march down Main Street in Fallbrook as well... but darn, I had better not register my protest - I'd be a racist! Tell me, which 'race' is a Mexican, anyway? Go to Germany or France or Belgium or Norway or Sweden or Switzerland or New Zealand - any country but ours, and pull your Mexican flag-waving crap in your intimidating march there. See what happens to you. Try it in Spain, even. Concerned, this country hasn't been free since 1913 - don't you read? Leah, you're my latest hero.
I don't condone any illegal activity but I do honestly think that this gang problem needs to be addressed in another way. Putting them away in jail is not the answer because there will be more along the way. It is ridiculous to think that it's only Hispanics who are in gangs....really? You are that ignorant to point your finger at Hispanics only.....because let me tell you that there are also the KKK (who are a gang..of uhmm...whites), the monguls (uhmmm white), the skin heads (ohh yeah white), the Hells Angels (yeah!). These other gangs are always committing crimes of hate....but no one seems to like to address these right? So stop judging one race...and look at this problem as a whole.
They should be put back in school, join boys and girls club, and work. They are just wasting time.
MEXICAN-AMERICAN needs to learn how to spell...oh yeah, thats the way we teach it in the Fallbrook Schools now isnt it? Thats the problem. This whole stream has become race and hate driven. and who cares whether they are called Varrios Fallbrook Locos or Lobos(Valley of Fallbrook Losers)....They are losers and thats all there is to it. But that also goes to all other gang Bangers and drug users. It doesnt matter what race, but for those who are ignorant to statistics, look them up and read for yourself if you even know how to read. I cant believe the ignorance or stupidity that has developed in Fallbrook. Good Job to the Law enforcement of Fallbrook, keep it up. Most of Fallbrook should be happy Im not the sherriff, we would have another tent city with them wearing pink.
It is way past due time to bring in the military to do two things, take back our borders, and begin sweeping our cities in California for gangs. There are not enough local dollars or man power to properly eradicate this ever growing cancer on our State.
Go Sheriffs. Keep up the good work. We thank you for our efforts.
ive seen multiple agencies in town this friday again thankfully. im done ranting for the night and I will probably be labeled as a racist for these views whice shows how screwed up our society is getting ![]()
no the logical answer is a mass sweep of all illegal mexican immigrants followed by deportation with strong improvments along the border. By the way I spent 4 years at FHS and saw the strong majority of problems whether violence or disturbances in the classroom were caused by vfls. The in school suspension room... Mostly mexican.. All the graffiti all over town whos behind that. Look at the numbers of murders in mexico border cities alone had thousands this year. The whole mexican govt is currupt. ![]()
what part of illegal dosent mean illegal. How many mexicans come here and have kids and collect our taxes by way of welfare and dont pay into taxes because most work under the table. And how many legal americans need a job right now? Some act as if we couldnt do our own agriculture and landscaping its ludacris. I belive in immigration legally! I cant belive its even a issue what to do with these people! They are ILLEGAL why even have laws if we dont enforce them? I think the obvious answer
I live on ammunition rd 25 years agoand moved away 3 years ago , Now it looks like little mexico I came back this past summer . What part of illeagle immigriant dont you understand .I grew up there and now May ellis school is the wellfare school....
I applaud strong law enforcement and strict regulations. We can not allow gang collaboration in any of our communities where children live. However the community must provide these children an alternative to gang involvement and provided them with recreation programs and adult mentors. Art,music, design, woodshop and craft programs would give these kids a pastime to absorb their interest and time. And it would allow them to experience being successful at something. They need adult mentors outside of their families who speak English and who can assist them in navigating the American culture. Mainly how to prepare for college or a trade school and be a thriving citizen. Many of these kids have parents who work into the evening and therefore they have no supervision. Unless we address the problem from both ends, law enforcement and prevention by compassionate mentoring small communities such as yours are liable to become breeding grounds for racial tension, juvenile crime and chaos. Direct personal intervention with fun recreational art programs will alleviate the problem immensely.
.... this stupid? The money quoted was for 25 such sweeps and 480 arrests. Jeez you people need to think a little bit more http://www.northcountytimes.com/articles/2009/05/10/news/sandiego/z18d5a69e38be3a8e882575af005e4cd7.txt
My son, an unarmed, non-gang member, was murdered by gang members in 2006. There is not enough money in the world to bring him back, but perhaps such grants will save another mother this grief and pain. Gang violence must be stopped.
Your immediate reaction to attack others is the reason this problem is seriously advancing. Bad people exist in every race. In Los Angeles they have issues with black gangs, in Las Vegas they have problems with Asian gangs, and Fallbrook previously had problems with "white" gangs. In this particular case the VFL's are the problem. It is not an attack on Mexicans, it is an attack on the VFL's. Your attempt to redirect attention to white crack heads displays personal insecurity. Mexico is currently in utter chaos. Considering you live here in the United States, I am going to assume you do not want our town to resemble Mexico. It is more important than ever to protect our town from becoming a haven for illegal activity. Phoenix is currently dealing with issues from both sides of the border.
peaple say that the vfl is a dangerous gang i have lived in vine street almost my whole life and you rarely see things happen if you dont do nothing to them they wont do nothing to You simple as that.
On the night of the alleged "gang" sweep, I was pulled over for what I call being "white on a Friday night." I was pulled over according to the sheriff, because my car was an older model and druggies are known to drive cars like mine. I have never been in trouble with the law, but yet was detained embarrassingly for 20 minutes while the officers searched my vehicle with my permission, and was interrogated as to my reason for driving on Fallbrook Street at 8pm. I wasn't drinking, not using drugs, never been arrested, but yet for the 5th time this month was pulled over for absolutely no reason and harrassed. So all of you who are claiming racial profiling, I am the one that is claiming it the loudest. Don't be caught dead in a car that is over 10 years old on Fallbrook Street, Old Stage, CLemmens, or any of the other "gangbanger Streets" especially if you are a single mother of 2 small children, white, and stone cold sober. I think this whole community and the entire Fallbrook Sheriff substation needs a complete overhaul and an investigation by internal affairs as to the police officers who are supposed to protect and serve, not stop and harrass.
i have been living in Fallbrook for 34 years. i noticed that there is more than one gang. i think a gang you should be looking for is the one from Alturas. they are more dangerous than the VFLs but they just lay low for so long that you forget about them.
Those of you who think that the $900,000.00 was spent on a single operation and to arrest 12 people.. your as dumb as the person that wrote the article. It was a grant funding all the North County law enforcement agencies of the span of a YEAR to conduct concentrated sweeps through out the NORTH county in its ENTIRETY. By the way... it was a successful year... Also, the night of this sweep... there was a GANG realated shooting in Fallbrook in front of the Carls JR. There is a gang problem across the entire U.S.!! Wake up and learn to read before you make dumb comments...
You bleeding heart liberals who let the illegals in with your BS deserve what you get. Who is paying for our jails genius, we are. What majority lives in our jails, illegals. Keep crying and paying, I'm outta this mexican state!!!!
How many times are you going to blame BUSH? These people have already broken the law by coming over here illegally. We have worked for years teaching our children that if you break the law you will be punished. Why are we rewarding these illegal people??
its all about that big F
The cops should just shoot them all.
I was thinking of moving to Fallbrook until I came across this article and read the following comments. Needless to say, I've now changed my mind.
GOOD JOB POLICE 2 THUMBS UP.
These people need to move to Oceanside... or somewhere else, NIMBY. These people tag anything that isn't tied down, they break-in to empty places just to cause damage. They don't belong here. Drugs aren't welcome here and neither is VFL. We have our eyes on you, VFL. If it takes a milliun bucks, so be it. Cross the line, pay the price. There can't be that much money for you in little Fallbrook anyway. Now that you know you are being watched, how you going to act? Kudos to the San Diego county sherifs department. Awsome guys... and gals... Lt's continue to push these idiots toward the ocean. Get 'em out of Fallbrook. Let's all keep our eyes on them.
its a waste oF money the cops aren't gonna stop anything keep trying we're still gonna be here gangsters don't die we multiply hahaha
this is varrio fallbrook till we die
all I saw that night was racial profiling. Just because you have brown skin doesn't mean you're a gangster. I wish I could see the "pulled over reports", they probably let go 90%. ridiculous waist of the people's money.
I'm bleary eyed reading these posts, I'm doing research and have come to the conclusion that whether you are black-brown-white or a mixture of them, it comes down to how you draw attention to yourself. Lack of respect for property, is a reflection of your own lack of respect for yourself. I agree that "programs" only add to the "rebellious acts" of those who find admiration from others on "being tough"... you are young once and what you make of yourselves depends entirely on you. I am a dark American..of Hispanic decent, but I love this country and I have risen above poverty, hard work is the answer...expecting handouts keeps you poor and only you can blame yourself for your circumstances. I think "taggers" should have their homes tagged...should have their personal effects confiscated and given to those who will appreciate them. Being poor here is a temporary situation, being poor in another country...now that's difficult to overcome. If your parents broke the law, what example did they give you? When you accept "free stuff" you are a slave to a government that wants to keep you there. Freedom is worth fighting for..Do IT!
is it safe now
people have to remember that there are also white supremisist in fallbrook to. its not just mexicans. skin head gangs started in fallbrook. why are the police looking for them to?
Thank you Fallbrook Sheriff Dept. Thank you for making our streets safe, thank you for putting your life in danger so we can sleep, and take a quite walk at night with our love one. I am glad there is money put in our Sheriff Dept. That money takes drugs, guns out of kids hands. Those kids are our next President, congress person, judge and lawyer. We as a town should stand together and back our local Sheriffs that give a darn about our town. Go Fallbrook Sheriff you have my back, I will have yours.
Great start i wish the city of vista would get off their butts my city is starting to look like T J Great work guys
I am so glad to here this. This is what we need especially deporting them back to their country. I am sick and tire of looking over my should not knowing who will rob you or assult you next. I just want to thank the men and women of law enforcement and continue to enforce our laws.
Fine detailed article about the alien invasion and its evidence left in the jails. You drew a great conclusion: "they have a choice whether to be a gang member or not." I'd move that line up in bigger type as an isolated quote for emphasis. You're working on a solution now!
What a waste of resources!!! Do you realize that if you were to divide the $983,000 among the supposed 130 documented gang members, that amount comes out to $7,567.10 for EACH ONE!! That would easily pay the way for ALL of them to attend a local community college and/or get started on their first year at a 4 year university!!! Instead, you spend almost 1 MILLION DOLLARS to arrest 12 people!!! This means you spent $81,976 PER EACH PERSON YOU CAUGHT!!! And it will cost even more to process them in court, feed and house them in jail. Ridiculous!!!! Not to mention, you only temporarily jailed only 10% of your alleged criminal targets. 10% of these "gang members" could actually be charged with any crime!!! This should be seen as a failure and a waste all around. But we know the pay only goes to overtime for the officers involved. Call this your BONUS!!! I say Fair well to Fewell!!!!!
To: What???? The "gang sweep" was completed on Friday. The incident on Cancun happened on Sunday night, therefore the money from the grant was not used for "water balloon thowers". It seems that you are not aware of how serious these "water balloon throwers" were. Armed and all, about 10 shots were fired that evening between them. Thank goodness no innocents were killed in the crossfire. Is that what it is going to take for people to understand we are dealing with armed juvenile gang members? It is too bad that gun laws have only succeeded in disarming those that follow the law. If law abiding citizens were armed, this lawlessness wouldn't last very long.
PS fallbrook police dont judge the VFL'S keep ur eye out on the white crack heads fallbrook has also white kids that do bad stuff...they should open there eyes and see is not only the latinos but every one...there no palace in fallbrook for kids to skate for free or boxing leason no more..no every one can afford the boysngurls club |
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